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My Obsession with the SMT Universe.


On 03/24/2013 at 05:38 PM by mothman

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This blog is inspired by Leeradical42's writings regarding his obsession with Devi Summoner.

http://www.pixlbit.com/blog/1181/my_obsession_with_the_devil_summoner_series

It made me realize that I've been obsessed with all things SMT related for a long time.

Way back in 2004 I got wind of a new RPG coming to North America. That game was Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne, the third game in the SMT series but the first to be released here in the Western world.

I knew nothing about it but my RPG obsession and the relatively underground hype surrounding the game prompted me to slap down my cash for the preorder. The preorder came with a 400 page strategy guide which is the size of a paperback novel. I was elated over the quality of the guide until I actually tried to read it. Unfortunately the book is so badly bound that pages fall out of it like the leaves from a tree in the autumn wind. For whatever reason I kept it and all the loose pages are still in there.

Once I started to play Nocturne I was hooked and my obession with the SMT Universe continues to this day. I love the demon compendium and the fusions, the lore and the supernatural stories. To SMT purists Digital Devil Saga, Persona, Devil Summoner and Devil Survivor are not considered to be "real" SMT games and Strange Journey might be. To them I give a resounding raspberry and both my middle fingers. I may not know my main SMT games but I know what I like.

Below is my copy of Nocturne (2004 NA release) with the guide,  Digital Devil Saga 1 (2005) and 2 (2005) with the original Deluxe box and soundtracks for DDS 2. The soundtrack for DDS is around somewhere but I need to look for it. To the right of those is my preorder copy of Persona 3 (2007) with outer cover, soundtrack and hardcover art book. Beside that is the FES version of P3 (2008) which included an epilogue called "The Answer" Persona 3 Portable was released for the PSP in 2009 and I only have a digital copy of that one.

My SMT Games part 1

This next picture concludes the PS2 installments and moves on to the portable games. Persona 4 (2008) remains my favourite Persona and possibly my favourite SMT related game. I rarely feel the "post partum" depression that P4 left me with. For at least a month no other game was ever going to interest me for no other game would ever compare. I managed to get over it but I still miss all the friends I made in Persona 4.

Underneath P4 are my two Devil Summoner games (2006 and 2009) and to the right is the Raiho plushie that came with the second one. I am ashamed to say that I did not put enough time into either game to qualify as actually playing them. I must rectify that before someone buys them from me. While the other games in the series take the turn based route these are action RPGs with a totally unique flavour to them.

Handheld SMT games

I missed Persona and Persona 2 from the PSX era (1996 and 1999) so my first taste of them was through the PSP remakes (2009 and 2011). The second half of Persona 2 subtitled Eternal Punishment was never released over here as a PSP game but a couple of weeks back we were lucky enough to get it as a PSN download. Of course I had to download it even though neither of the PSP entries has grabbed me yet. Warning: Other than the high school kids the first 2 games bear little resemblance to 3 and 4. Nevertheless I have both the PSP games with soundtracks.

Strange Journey (2010) for the DS is another one I picked up at launch. It came with a soundtrack. It's a first person dungeon crawler but still keeps the trappings of the SMT universe.

Devil Survivor (2009) and Devil Survivor Overclocked (2011) are SRPG/RPG hybrids. Battles are played on a grid but once you engage an enemy it switches to a turn based RPG battle system. Overclocked for the 3DS adds an extra day to the game and features a 3D intro. Everything else is essentially the same as the original.

Devil Survivor 2 (2012) is not pictured here because some bugger just bought it from me. A 3DS version is due this year/

SMT games part deux

Well that about concludes my introduction to the SMT universe. I hope you find it useful.

- Peter


 

Comments

Matt Snee Staff Writer

03/24/2013 at 06:32 PM

I've heard Nocturne is pretty tough.  But I've always wanted to play Digital Devil Saga and I always have it in my Amazon cart.  Smile

mothman

03/24/2013 at 07:02 PM

Nocturne is tough and like many games in the series it gets tougher as it goes along. The last 20% or so consists of boss battles against bosses that have ridiculously high HP and no weaknesses. For me that was the weakest part of the game because it killed your desire to finish it. So I didn't. I did enjoy the 80% I played though.

jgusw

03/24/2013 at 06:33 PM

Nice.  I have many of the same games.  I'm missing Persona 2: Eternal Punishment (I was hoping it was get a US release on the PSP) and I have yet to pick up Devil Survivor: Overclock, though I do own the regular game on DS.  I just picked up Persona 4 Golden (Vita), but I still don't own a Vita and I'm thinking about preordering Soul Hackers (3DS) and I don't own a 3DS yet. 

mothman

03/24/2013 at 06:59 PM

Persona 4 Golden would be the first game I buy if I bought a Vita. Soul Hackers is a definite must buy.

transmet2033

03/24/2013 at 08:26 PM

I have always wanted to play these games.  I have a copy of persona 3 and strange journey, but sadly have not put much time into either of them.

mothman

03/24/2013 at 09:00 PM

Hmmm, you have two very different games there. I'd start with Persona 3 and go from there. 

Aboboisdaman

03/24/2013 at 08:37 PM

Nice collection Pete. I have that boxed edition of P3... and that's about it. I've been meaning to play P4 for a while now.

mothman

03/24/2013 at 08:57 PM

Definitely play P4 if you can. It is well worth the time 

V4Viewtiful

03/24/2013 at 09:44 PM

Cool beans (Embarassed)

I still need to play these games, but got no time (or money...) Still, cool Cool

BrokenH

03/24/2013 at 10:04 PM

I think Persona 3 fes, Persona 4, and Devil Summoner 2 did difficulty just right. I want to play Nocturne something fierce but I fear I don't have 100+ hours to commit to an extremely hard grind heavy rpg. One of the sad realities of being an adult!

mothman

03/24/2013 at 10:14 PM

I must admit that those games had a fairly decent difficulty curve however games like Nocturne and DDS could really hand you your ass at times.

Patrick Kijek Contributing Writer

03/24/2013 at 10:16 PM

Time is the biggest issue with these games, although the story and gameplay are so great that they should be bumped up on everybody's list of games to play.

mothman

03/26/2013 at 11:08 AM

Yes there is a time sink invoived but I find the end result rewarding. It's almost like a grown up Pokemon for me. I love seeing how much of the compendium I can complete and creating demons with no weaknesses and crazy powers.

KnightDriver

03/24/2013 at 11:20 PM

I keep jumping in this series and it keeps kicking my butt. I never learn. I guess I'm just too fascinated with talking to demons.

mothman

03/26/2013 at 11:09 AM

Kill first, talk later. LOL

smartcelt

03/25/2013 at 02:44 AM

I love the Persona games. I want to try them on my PSP,been seeing them around lately. The entire group of games looks fascinating. Thanks for doing this blog. Between this and what leeradical wrote I now have a better understanding of them.

mothman

03/26/2013 at 11:10 AM

If you haven't played P1 or 2 do not go in expecting P3 or 4.

Super Step Contributing Writer

03/25/2013 at 07:02 AM

That Raiho plushie is pretty cool; I've always been interested in the Persona games story, not sure how long I'd last at a JRPG dungeon crawler like SMT though.

mothman

03/25/2013 at 11:29 AM

The Devil Summoner games might work for you. They are action based.

Super Step Contributing Writer

03/25/2013 at 05:56 PM

Ah, so is that why the "real" fans cry foul? I might just give them the finger and rasberries myself. lol

mothman

03/26/2013 at 11:03 AM

It's generally because each separate series of games plays differently with only most of the demon compendium, mythology, demon fusing, items and magic staying the same.

That's actually what keeps it interesting for me.

C.S.3590SquadLeader

03/25/2013 at 11:11 AM

I've been interested in this series for a while now, but due to either rotten luck or my forgetfulness I haven't been able to get into it like I want.

daftman

03/25/2013 at 11:17 AM

Very nice! Glad you included those pictures too. I've been interested in SMT for a while, so when I got a PSP a year and a half ago I snapped up copies of Persona, Innocent Sin, and P3P. I started Persona but got bogged down in the middle. The system for negotiating with the demons is so opaque! It just seems random whether they respond favorably or not. The battle music also drove me nuts lol. I haven't tried the others yet.

I picked up a copy of Digital Devil Saga 2 a while back. I saw it and decided to get it because I know they're highly sought after games (SMT in general) but should I play DDS1 first?

mothman

03/25/2013 at 11:36 AM

Definitely play DDS before you play the second one. Demon negotiations can be frustrating but there is a pattern.

angelfaceband42

03/25/2013 at 10:47 PM

I've always wanted to play these games because of the hype so to speak.  I actually picked up Nocturne and Persona for PSP.  But alas they are in my backlog, I never got to them.  It was funny though, when I bought Nocturne it was the only time I got the impression the clerk was trying to warn me about my purchase and talk me out of it due to its difficulty level.

mothman

03/26/2013 at 10:59 AM

If you make the right choices and do the appropriate grinding/demon fusing Nocturne is not that bad for the most part. Only certain boss battles and the entire end game are really hard.

GeminiMan78

03/26/2013 at 10:12 AM

This realy is a great series. My first Shin Megumi game was Persona 2, found it dirt cheap at KB on my lunch break years ago. It is crazy ass hard and have only got to the second dungeon. Beat Persona 3 FES, but I have not gotten through the prologue add on. Love that game.  Have got a good way into Persona 4 need to just finish it. Got the first Devil Summoner, it is pretty unusual but very good. Just manged to get a copy of Digital Devil Saga, now just need to track down part 2 and Nocturne. Strange Journey looked pretty neat I just don't play my DS that much anymore though. Now if Atlus would just stop stalling and give us Persona 5 already.

mothman

03/26/2013 at 10:56 AM

I didn't finish the epilogue on P3 FES either. I really should but the beginning of it left me depressed so I stopped playing. You definitely should play through Persona 4 to the end. It is well worth it.

DDS 1 and 2 are two parts of the same story. They really do need to be played together or close enough together so that you can remember what happened in part 1

Nocturne is a long grind but an interesting story. As I've mentioned the final gauntlet of boss battles which differs depending on your choices gets controller throwing hard.

I'm trying to finish Strange Journey for the 3rd time. I'm still not a fan of everything but the dungeon crawls being played out in still pictures and menu choices but I want to find out how it ends.

Jonathan Drake

03/28/2013 at 07:05 PM

Shame on me, but Nocturne and Devil Summoner are just sitting on shelf, waiting the day I will finally pick them up and play them.

I played quite a bit of Devil Summoner and found it to be quite fun. I hope Atlus gives us more of Raidou Kuzunoha.

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