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The PS4's RAM and The Mania of Fanboys + VxG & Potsplitting


On 07/29/2013 at 09:06 AM by gigantor21

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So over on NeoGAF and various other forums I visit, there was a huge row over a revelation in Eurogamer that the PS4 will only grant about 5.5GB of RAM out of the 8GB in the device, with a big portion of it walled off for the OS. You even had people talking about cancelling their pre-orders over this. Never mind that A) all those great demos we saw at E3 and other places were built around the assumption of just 4GB, or that B) it's likely that the OS will be pared down over time the same way the PS3's was.

Really, though, this was just the most emphatic case of the sort of hysteria that has been pervasive throughout the entire next-gen rollout. While MS gave people plenty of reasons to be legitimately leery before turning things around, some of the nontroversies surrounding the next-gen consoles have been ridiculous. And in many cases, it's driven by unsubstantiated rumors anyway.

I'm excited about the PS4 and really want to get one. But I'm not going to lose sleep over something like RAM count, since even at just 4GB that's 8x as much as what they have to work with now. And they were already able to make stuff like Killzone Shadow Fall and the Dark Sorcerer tech demo with that amount.

I just...ugh. And then people wonder why outsiders don't take us seriously.

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So I caught bits and pieces of the inaugural Video x Games tournament in San Marteen, where various fighting games and COD were played. The event had been pushed heavily at various fighting game events over the past year, and several prominent fighting game players were in attendnace. "Going to DA BEECH" was even a meme on Twitch streams for a while. :p

The actual event, though, was a real mess. There was word of serious problems with the bracket, in which players didn't know how far in they were in the tournament and proper records weren't even kept at times. Several events--such as an appearance by the cast of Mortal Kombat webseries--ended up being cancelled. They also had cosplayers like Jessica Nigiri doing commentary (leading to some embarrasingly thirsty bullshit in the stream chat) as opposed to...actual players and known FGC figures.

But by far the worst part was the UMVC3 finals. You had ChrisG, one of the most dominant players in the world, fighting against the Evolution 2013 champion Flocker. I was really excited to see how the two would play each other; both play very oppressive characters, and Flocker had gotten several amazing come-from-behind wins over the weekend. Instead, they halfassed the whole thing, picking random teams and not playing seriously at all. It was plain as day that, yet again, another final had been ruined because they'd decided to split the winnings amongst themselves.

Money has always been a big issue within the fighting game community. Fact is, there really isn't much to go around; the kind of sponsorships and endorsments you see in games like Dota 2 and LoL don't exist, and prize pools and payouts are much smaller. Thus trying to make real money through playing fighting games is difficult even for the best players. But doing stupid shit like this is not going to help.

It's disrespectful to the people watching the event. It's disrespectful to the companies that are sponsoring the event, and put money up to add to the prize pool and cover travel costs for the players. And it's disrespectful to the teams that actually handle the streams, who often work for free and even end up losing money (although it was handled by Capcom itself this time).

And then you'll have these same players go on Twitter whine about how the scene is still too small, or accuse TOs (tournament organizers) of not giving enough money to the players, and how their precious skillset isn't being valued. How does this bullshit do anything to rectify those things? Why should I feel any sympathy for such blatant hypocrites? How is this going to get more people watching the streams or build interest in the games--which will do far more to bring money in than potsplitting ever will?

I'm sick and tired of hearing people complain about the lack of money or growth in the FGC without doing anything to help, or even making it look worse. I don't want to hear their excuses when you have players going to grad school or playing while holding steady jobs. And besides, there are games with far more money on the table, and jobs that actually provide reliable income, that they could be focusing on instead. There's really no excuse.


 

Comments

transmet2033

07/29/2013 at 09:55 AM

That is it, I just canceled my PS4 pre-order.  What good are the games if they only use 2/3rds of the RAM?  Also, the matte finish of the console will totally clash with the glossiness of my other consoles.

gigantor21

07/29/2013 at 10:05 AM

Not to mention how the console is so small. I want something that looks powerful, dammit!

Chris Yarger Community Manager

07/29/2013 at 10:10 AM

Just remember....

gigantor21

07/29/2013 at 10:49 AM

Yep. Just like Uncharted 2 and the GOW console games.

Nicoleb1989

07/29/2013 at 01:15 PM

I dont get what the big deal is about the ram,  I guess im jsut not very tech knowledgeable. Im still getting the PS4, the ram isnt a bother for me,lol.

gigantor21

07/29/2013 at 01:26 PM

It isn't a big deal, LOL. :p

There haven't been any developers who have felt limited by any of the PS4's specs. Hell, I can't think of many who feel the Xone is too weak in comparison either. I'm sure it'll be fine.

SanAndreas

07/29/2013 at 01:44 PM

LOL. I'm sure the Xbone fans who have been defending the Xbox 180 like crazy are looking for any excuse, however insignificant, to pick at the PS4 now.

gigantor21

07/30/2013 at 02:49 PM

The sad part, though, is that a lot of the people pulling their hair out over this are Sony fans. -_-

Super Step Contributing Writer

07/29/2013 at 03:13 PM

Gamers are often fickle and immature, and Jessica Nigri is hot. I already knew these things. lol 

gigantor21

07/30/2013 at 02:50 PM

ROFLMAO XD

Man, I can't wait to see the shitstorm once the consoles come out and we start seeing actual sales numbers. It's gonna be a blast. :p

Super Step Contributing Writer

07/30/2013 at 05:55 PM

Yeah, I can't lie, I was a huge Gamecube fanboy, and while for some reason my friends and I were cool with the PS2, some stupid shit got said about XBOX, and I feel I missed out by being a raging, tribalistic dumbass. I was also eleven, though. The fact I know some of these people to be around my age NOW is ... disheartening.

But that doesn't mean I'm not seriously considering betting on these things like they're horses. Might even buy one with the winnings. Hi-yo Sony, cover that spread!

Vice's Assistant

07/29/2013 at 09:08 PM

I really don't see why anyone would argue, its always the same. One console renders shadows better, another one has better bump maps or something like that. Meanwhile all of the PCs users throw up that gif of Michel Jackson eating popcorn from Thriller and just sit back and watch. Its all rather pointless considering PS4 and Xbox One are both similars to PCs. Just enjoy what you game, ingore the small stuff.

I am so glad I missed VxG. I the stuff with the Smash tournament turned me off to it but all of that other crap that came out it. Wow. Between the pot splitting and that the stream monster's comments on Nigri, I'd be surpised if VxG has a big FG showing next year if any.

gigantor21

07/30/2013 at 02:53 PM

I really don't get why people are getting upset about this after seeing what first-party teams did with the PS4 back in February. They all thought it would just be 4GB and still blew the current-gen out of the water visually. It's just stupid.

On VxG: the whole thing was a mess. It was just a mess. The players there said they had a lot of fun there, though, and many even extended their stay just to enjoy the island. So the VxG team probably got what they wanted in terms of tourist attraction. Still not a good look from a gaming standpoint, though.

NSonic79

08/06/2013 at 10:45 PM

thank you for reminding me that there are times when I refrain from getting too embedded in video gamesrs in general. making that much of an issue out of the RAM onthe PS4 seems silly in comparison. I don't recall gamers making that a make or break dealmaker when it came to the last gen systems.

As for the event, it just goes to show that games have a long way to go before they can be considered for the standard fairs that come to pass with other professional sports like baseball and football. perhaps they need videogame players to take performance enhancing drugs to be taken seriously than just whining on the payout being too small.

gigantor21

08/06/2013 at 11:32 PM

It's mainly an issue with the fighting game scene. While this BS is going on, League of Legends players are getting athlete visas and will have the world tournament in goddamn Staples Center of all places.

And yeah, I don't remember the RAM being an issue back when we saw that Shadow Fall demo done with just 4GB. People are so fickle and oversensitive about these specs, man...

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