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My History With Christianity (No ranting or insults this time)


On 01/02/2014 at 02:37 AM by Blake Turner

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 Hi guys! Long time no see. So, last time I tried explain some of my hatred for christianity, I got a little carried away. This time, I want to get away from ranting and raving like a lunatic. I also want to get away from insulting anyone for their beliefs, because realistically, that's one of the reasons I fell away from Christianity to begin with. Also, some of this stuff is quite personal, so I apologise in advance for that. Anyway, here we go.

My mother had me when she was 16. My father was 22, and neither really wanted me at that stage in my life, not out of love, but because they believed they couldn't raise me with their current lifestyles. Mum's was obvious as she was still a teenager, but Dad was more because he was quite heavily into drugs, dealing, and stuff like that. So I got left with my grandparents. Honestly, I feel like this was the best move, as my grandmother is about mothering age, and she's probably the only normal one in my family. So I grew up fairly normally. Our family wasn't perfect, as my grandfather was an alcoholic, my uncle was always high, and one of my brothers (who also got left with my grandmother) has both bipolar and aspergers. Yeah, that's not a great combination. He could get very angry and would often break things, act physically violent towards people, and so on. Mum tried to step in and take him, but that didn't last long.

 

If you've seen this episode, imagine a less extreme version of this kid. That's my brother.

Anyway, when I was around 6, my father found Jesus, and promptly thought everyone else in the world was an idiot and tried to convert me into his cult. As a six year old who knew every single line to Nirvana's MTV Live and Unplugged, and the Slim Shady LP, as well as liking pokemon, goosebumps, and creepy shit in general, this basically meant GIVE UP EVERYTHING YOU'VE EVER ENJOYED! Ha. I wasn't buying that shit.

At age 10, my father asked me to live with him. I said no. He used various methods of guilt tripping and saying “Oh, it's only a trial,” and “Don't you love your father?” and various other things. When my trial was up, I tried to move back with my grandmother. Nope. More emotional guilt tripping and blatant lies about my family in order to keep me there. So I stayed in a household where I wasn't allowed to take interest in anything I liked but got in trouble for not taking interest in things. Yay!

When I was a teenager, things really started sinking in. I actually started believing in what the Jehovah's Witnesses taught. I guess this is what happens when you go to church 3 times a week and have to study before you go there, giving you fuck all time to have fun. I wasn't allowed to hang out with people who weren't Jehovah's Witnesses outside of school, although fortunately I still went to my grandmothers every second weekend so I'd go to their places then, play the games I wanted and was normal twice a month. But yeah, I actually believed it, and to be honest, I liked what the religion taught.

 

My dad then got married to a woman who hated my guts. Her child had been ripped away from her, and me and her daughter were best friends which lead her to believe that I was replacing him. So she made my life a living hell for the next four years. Oh well, at least I had my step sister, who was my best friend. I had someone who lived with me who liked stuff I liked, and we'd watch doctor who together, we had the same friends, and yeah, she was my best friend.

I also made two other friends who made it all tolerable. They are mainly the reason I'm so geeky. They played games. They read comics. They played board games. They read geeky ass shit. And they didn't follow the bible as rigidly as my father. I spent 90% of my time with them, despite them being older than I was.

 

The exact moment I was snapped out of this belief was when I was told I couldn't hang around one of them because he had an emotional illness – i.e. depression. Now, as I said previously, my brother has bipolar. My mum has depression. I'd been diagnosed with depression as well, but now I had to hide it because it “makes you weird and anti-social.” Yeah, one of my best friends needed me, and he was the only one I related to, and I wasn't allowed to talk to him.

It was about that time when I noticed every single person in that religion was a fucking hypocrite. “Entertainment is up to your own conscience and no one can judge you for it.” If you owned a copy of Lord of the Rings, you had no friends.

“Do not let yourself be stumbled by the weak.” If you were weak, you had no friends. If people were stumbled by you, you were the one who was in trouble.

“Be all things to all men, so that you might save their souls.” If you didn't act in a certain way, you had no friends. If you were seen with “Wordly people” (which means people who aren't Jehovah's Witnesses, people who dressed like they weren't Jehovah's Witnesses, people who watched, read, listened to or associated with people or things that weren't jehovahs witnesses) goodbye mother fucker, no one loves you.

 

So, the more of this I saw, the less I believed in a God at all. This all came to a head on my 18th birthday when I said fuck it, and had a birthday party, despite the fact that birthdays, worldly people, and alcohol are strict no nos. I got extremely drunk, and did "things" that a Jehovah's Witness really shouldn't. Dad had a problem with this, and for the next half a year things were quite tense between us. I told him I didn't want to be a Jehovah's Witness, and he said if I wanted to leave, I had to read the bible and find fault with it.

At this stage, I still believed in god. I just didn't want to be a Jehovah's Witness. But fuck it, I was going to do my darndest to get the fuck out of there. I read through basically the entire bible, did research into the history of the bible, related to other religions and that was it. I didn't believe in a god anymore. I didn't understand why we worshipped the Jewish god when all other ancient gods were stupid. I didn't understand why we took so literally a book that has been retranslated a billion times, where half the meaning had been lost. So on. So forth.

I told this to dad. He said I was a liar and that I still couldn't leave. He also told me I couldn't go to college (I had to run away from home for him to let me finish high school, so I didn't think that was going to happen). This was when I'd had enough. I was fine biding my time until I could move out, but he was actively ruining my future. I told him I was leaving. I called my nan who was coming to pick me up. Me and Dad got in a massive fight, which involved him punching me, slamming me against walls, and even strangling me. I left and didn't talk to him for over a year.

So yeah. This is my experience with Christianity. Can you understand why I'm so goddamn bitter towards it? You can say it's because I was with a shitty cult, but from my observation it's pretty much the same everywhere.


 

Comments

jgusw

01/02/2014 at 06:05 AM

Jehovah's Witnesses?!  I understand you a bit more now and you've helped me understand Jehovah's Witnesses too.  In my area, Jehovah's Witnesses aren't consider Christians.  Growing up, I remember Jehovah's Witnesses would go door to door to share their religion.  Many times, if someone was home, they wouldn't answer the door and would hide in the house until the Jehovah's Witnesses left.  Did the same for the Mormons. Laughing  The only things I knew about the religion was from the few friends I had growing up that were Jehovah's Witnesses.  They didn't say they were Christians and they would mock God and Jesus or say they weren't real if you brought up religion.  I assumed they did it because they weren't Christians, but now that I think about it, it could of been their way of going against their religion.  They weren't the cheeriest people either.  They seemed to be more happy at school than they were at home.  I also remember that they never sweared too.  

All religions have their hypocrites.  It's a sad truth that will never change.  As long as leaders continue to grow in money & power, that temptation to lie, cheat, steal, & kill to keep it will be there.  I think it's important for us, that have noticed this problem, not to let the same temptations change who we are.  Religious or not, we should try our best to be honest & decent with each other. Smile

Blake Turner Staff Writer

01/02/2014 at 07:35 AM

 That last sentence should just be the universal religion.

 Jehovah's Witnesses are Christians though. The only real difference in beliefs is that they don't believe in hell, and they believe only a few will go to heaven, whereas the rest will live forever on earth. Pretty much everything else is the same. For the most part, I like the religion. Like all religions though, it's what it's used for that turns me off. When I say we should do away with religion to advance as a species, I don't mean getting rid of personal worship or beliefs. I mean separating church and state entirely, and stopping relgion from becoming powerful organisations. They should be about belief, not power.

 

jgusw

01/02/2014 at 09:21 AM

I agree with the separation of church & state.  

Blake Turner Staff Writer

01/02/2014 at 09:22 AM

Right? It even says that in the bible. 

transmet2033

01/02/2014 at 10:17 AM

As somebody told me sometime in the past, you cannot legislate morality.

Super Step Contributing Writer

01/02/2014 at 01:37 PM

Your mother had you when you were 16? That sounds painful. Tongue Out Sorry, couldn't resist. 

That does sound like a rough environment to grow up in, though, and I can see why you have such antipathy towards religiosity. To be honest, unfortunately I'm not surprised any of this is the case for you, since you've hinted at this in the past, but I am glad you seem to have been able to pursue your future and get away from that abusive father of yours for a time. I'd definitely say to get authorities involved if he physically assaults you. I don't know what your relationship is like now, though. It's incredible to me how he can suffer from alcoholism and not realize depression is also an illness deserving of other people's help, not ostracization.

It took me a lot less to start questioning God's existence in high school. To be honest, I had my doubts about the Bible very early on. Of course, I went to Catholic school, where much of the Bible is taught as allegory, and not meant to be taken literally the way it is by other denominations of Christian churches. Jehova's Witness is considered fairly extreme by most people, I think. 

That brings me to your last line, about religion seeming the same pretty much everywhere. The hypocrite part, I have experienced for sure, but I was lucky to grow up with people who focused on the more loving aspects of their religions well enough for me to consider them good or even great people. That's not an argument for the truth of religion or the existence of God, I'm just saying you and I may have had different experiences in that I have in fact meant religious people who were nowhere even close to as bad as some you've had to experience. Heck, one of my teachers in Catholic school honestly seemed a lot more interested in Eastern philosophy. I tend to enjoy bits and pieces of Eastern and Western religions and incorporate them into my own way of thinking, myself. To me, it' all man-made, so there's bad and good in all of this stuff, and as we evolve, we become better at mixing and matching to find the best solutions for ourselves and others. 

Like you, I liked what my religion taught. One thing I still believe is that a person is more than their worst sin. For some reason, that's one thing from Catholic school that really stuck with me.

Of course, you and I share a lot of the same views on religious hypocrisy and evil as well. If you need to vent and rant in a PM some time, you've got an agnostic buddy here. Smile

Blake Turner Staff Writer

01/02/2014 at 01:51 PM

 I didn't notice that mistake. I edited it though! Also, if that were the case, it would explain a lot haha.

 No, my father wasn't the alcoholic. That was my grandfather. That fight me and dad had was a one off. Honestly, we get along pretty well now, it was just at the time things were pretty rough.

 Before we talk any further about religion, I consider Atheism a religion. Atheists can be dicks too, they can be violent, and when grouped together they can be just as bad as christians. We just don't have the same violent history as Christians, because, well, we didn't have the chance.

 "One thing I still believe is that a person is more than their worst sin." That is a damn good philosophy. And thanks for the invitation! This is all out of my system, so I think for the most part the whole Christian saga shall be over for now.

Super Step Contributing Writer

01/02/2014 at 02:59 PM

I don't consider atheism a religion by definition (semantics!, yeah sorry, I tend to get hung up on those). But I definitely agree with what I think you mean by that, that they or I guess "we" (I consider myself agnostic more than atheist, although I guess technically I'm agnostic-atheist, but I find it more comfortable to just say "I dunno") are absolute dicks in groups, just like religious people can be, and people can group themselves together as non-believers in very similar ways to the way religious people group themselves together. I don't like how atheist groups seek to represent people of my persuasion in the U.S. I'm fine with posting signs at Christmas, but make them in good humor or have positive messages, not ones antagonizing people for the ways they celebrate. 

Anyway, I apologize for getting your dad and granddad confused, that was my mistake. I'm glad you get along ok now. 

mothman

01/02/2014 at 02:28 PM

For me participation in organized religion ended when I was about 10 unless you count weddings and funerals.

My mum and dad never went to church but they sent my sister and I to Sunday school. I came home one Sunday and told them I wasn't going back because I didn't believe the stories they were telling me.  

That was that. 

That being said I live my life obeying many of the 10 commandments. I don't steal, cheat, lie or do it with my neighbours missus and I always do unto others before they do unto me as I would have them do unto me. 

That last part only works if you can find other people who believe the same thing. Funny thing is there aren't as many of them around as one might like to believe.

KnightDriver

01/02/2014 at 02:40 PM

I don't like groups that are exclusive in any way. I tried to rejoin the Christian church a while back and it just seemed to paint an us vs. them attitude, and I don't jive with that. I guess religion just isn't my thing. I'm too much an individualist for that.

Casey Curran Staff Writer

01/02/2014 at 10:21 PM

Mine was a lot less dramatic. My family's Catholic and pretty religious, but when I had to do all this shit to get confirmed, I just wondered why the fuck God cares about this. I had to do activities that had nothing to do with religion, sacrifice entire weekends for it, and other things. And that got me wondering about why I'm listening to a bunch of people rather than God himself. So I still believe in God, but think organized religion is not the way to do it. Just be a good person and make sure you made the world a better place, that's all I think he cares about.

Alex-C25

01/02/2014 at 11:58 PM

Man, sorry you had to go through that Blake.

Though I was raised in Catholisism (it's the number one religion in Colombia after all), I luckily had liberal parents that didn't restrict me that much and though they (or I think just my mom) do believe in God, they aren't that fanatic. As for myself, as much as I went to church and actually did the First Communion, i'm not a devoted catholic and even then, right now I don't consider myself a practicioner, and I try to stay away from religion and any question regarding any God. In fact, I don't belong to any religion now that I think about it.

Though I do also question the decisions and actions some religions and its followers do and I also question faith. I really dislike when people take religions to extremist extremes and I feel like the teachings of the past were badly interpreted or changes to suit a persons point of view, which is why religion today is fucked-up in some aspects.

Oh, now that you mention that your brother is an Asperger, I also should say that i'm one myself, though that is something for another topic.

ThatKidOverThere

01/03/2014 at 11:53 AM

Man, that sounds tough. My conversion was a bit less dramatic I think. I was raised a Hindu, but my parents never forced me into it. The stories and the values they taught were all cool and interesting but I just never bought into them. When asked if god exists I would say "He might". I feel like I'm in Joe Steps stae of mind, that subconsiously I know that there is no god, but I honestly don't even care that much so if there actually was a god I wouldn't be offending anyone. My parents don't go to the temple very often but when they do I just tell them that I don't want to go cause I don't believe in the religion. Then they always use the same line, "What else are you going to do?" and I usually say that "playing video games is a better use of my time" but they never believe me and they make me go anyways. I think that they're fine with me not being part of the religion but they just want me to tag along when they go. I believe that even if you don't practice in a religion, exposure to it isn't a bad thing, for the most part, beause there will always be the good people practicing it and there is always something to learn from them. 

Julian Titus Senior Editor

01/05/2014 at 07:52 PM

Well, you know that I was also raised a Jehovah's Witness, and while I think I had a more positive situation than you did, I can understand where you're coming from.

Did you ever check out our Backlogger's Anonymous series for El Shaddai? I think you might find it interesting. I had thought about you when we recorded the first part.

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