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1up Repost: Phantasy Star Parts I & II & IV


On 03/08/2013 at 03:22 AM by Halochief90

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A message from 2013: These are taken from three different old blogs of mine, so if it seems a bit long... that's why! Anyway, I hope any Phantasy Star fans out there get can have fun with it.

The days of the much loved single-player Phantasy Star games may be waning, but playing through the original recently brought me right back to those golden years. With Phantasy Star, I found myself constantly glued to the TV, pushing myself through one frustrating but rewarding challenge after another; I have rarely had that patience in the last five years! Up until now, I’ve never cared for any first-person RPG (old or new). I wouldn’t have thought repetitive, sometimes maze-like dungeons, and a laughable translation could still make a great game.

I also thought of myself as someone incapable of loving oldschool RPG’s after shrugging off FFV and VI, though loving the new ones. I realize now I was simply playing a series that was yet to define itself as its own (sorry FFVI fans). Right from FFII, the series ripped off Phantasy Star creating a character based RPG, and many towns, enemies, and backgrounds look shockingly similar to those in Phantasy Star all the way to FFVI. Not until FFVII did the series make the enemies more than static sprites, nine years after Phantasy Star. While this might sound like a hate-on, I did like those FF games, and it’s clear Phantasy Star also took a lot of pages from Dragon Quest. The game also has more of a sci-fi, Star Wars approach rather than the D&D roots in the Final Fantasy series; the former of which I realize I prefer.

You could do worse than ape Star Wars

In hindsight, Phantasy Star did make number 26 in EGM’s “200 Greatest  Games of Their Time” (the highest of any RPG) so maybe I shouldn’t be so surprised this game kicked so much ass. It’s not that the story was anything of note, though the game does still look quite good. Balancing was just nailed: regular enemies are always a danger and grinding early in the game is much more rewarding as the scale of experience doesn’t tilt. With three more games to play in the series, I can’t wait to get more of this old school charm I’ve missed out on.





As the second chapter in the Phantasy Star series, no longer can I compare this game solely to Final Fantasy. No, as the successor to the brilliant original, this sequel has a lot to live up to. As it starts out, striking similarities are clear: Snappy sprites, simple battle system, catchy music, and… a four letter limit to character names? Dungeons are no longer first-person, and instead are more detailed compounds and caves like those seen in most 2D JRPGs. However they are just as large and maze-like as ever. Yes, this is good old Phantasy Star.

The similarities don’t last long however, as I soon found the story has more in common with Blade Runner than the fairytale story of the original. Only one planet is explored in this one, taking out the unique space-faring of the original. As well, the battle system is not quite as simple as it seems once the variety of playable characters are seen (8 in all). Command options given to allies can become quite dense as later levels are reached. Unfortunately, such complexity is perhaps overblown for a 20-year old RPG. Some of the characters are useless, and others are a waste of time until later in the game. Regular enemies in dungeons can leap from easy to near instant-death. Also, the lack of a save-anywhere feature like the original makes having to redo an hour of gameplay far too frequent than it should be. Note: Actually, there is a secret way to get an item to save anywhere later in the game, but my efforts lead to nothing.

The dungeons look amazingly far ahead of their time… Unfortunately, it’s hard to distinguish room from room.

This imbalance was my undoing for the game. Perhaps I went into the game wanting it to approach the experience of the original game, or maybe the old school difficulty was simply too much for me. Either way, once it got to the point where I had to check online for every step I made in the dungeons, I didn’t see any accomplishment I could get in completing the game. To be fair, I probably put roughly 30 hours into the game, and made it a fair way passed the surprise; a surprise of which was spoiled for me before I even played the game. I enjoyed most of my time with the game, and it did have a superior battle system to the original, maybe even putting it among my favourite RPG battle systems. Still, as the original “do anything” genre, it’s the balance that is most important and then maybe that magic can be felt again.

Phantasy Star IV


The few who are still around and knew me way back in the summer of 09  may remember I started up a blog series on the original Phantasy Star series... which abruptly ended when I got frustrated with PSII. Now that I finally decided to play the conclusion of the trilogy, I can say I’m not disappointed. The battle system is incredibly deep and the dungeons are the best I’ve probably seen in any RPG. The story kept me coming back and I didn’t even need one achievement to help me along the way.

The protagonist of the game is Alys, who just may be the most likable female game character I’ve seen yet. She’s kind of the tough-punk chick, but her dialogue can get downright hilarious at times... which (spoiler) brings me to the one problem I had with the game: they kill her off. The replacement is the typical dimwitted kid. This would have been fine if her death had some meaning beyond sacrifice, but it didn’t really. The plot never does anything interesting with the new hero. To be honest though, maybe it was good they killed her off when they did because the series never had particularly memorable characters. To think they would have kept that pace of character would have been astonishing. It didn’t really affect the qualities of the other amazing aspects of the game anyway.


 

Comments

Cary Woodham

03/08/2013 at 05:33 AM

If I had a Genesis I probably would've totally been into Phantasy Star IV.

Halochief90

03/09/2013 at 12:22 AM

Well, I missed out on them with the Genesis and still loved the heck out of I & IV. They still hold up today.

FAF101

03/08/2013 at 08:02 AM

I got some of these games off of Steam and Nintendo Wii. I have yet to play them but I have always been interested in trying them out because they seemed like awesome games. Also have heard many times that it was a game that was kind of hidden and never relized for its full potential by gamers during the time it first came out.

Halochief90

03/09/2013 at 12:25 AM

I'm not sure how hidden the series was. It certainly was the distant third between Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest (which was a distant 2nd!) over here. I don't think the series truly got recognition until PSO was a huge hit.

Matt Snee Staff Writer

03/08/2013 at 08:57 AM

I love these games.  Never played the first one, but I've played II and IV countless times.  Theyre really great.  

Halochief90

03/09/2013 at 12:26 AM

I want to play PSIV again. It's already been a couple years. I can't vouch how much PSI holds up in relation to the others though as I played that one first.

Super Step Contributing Writer

03/08/2013 at 09:06 AM

I haven't played these, but you know how I feel about JRPGs, so you know I'm in no way knocking the series by saying that, it's probably awesome; though it sounds like PSII was the least worthy entry.

Alys does sound like a cool character, all punk rock and hilarious.

Halochief90

03/09/2013 at 12:29 AM

Yeah, a lot of people love PSII, but then again, I heard the game was shipped with a strategy guide way back when. That's a luxury I was not given unfortunately.

Alys was a pretty big breath of fresh air to me. Most characters from older games (including Phantasy Star) usually seem paper thin to me, but that wasn't the case with Alys.

Aboboisdaman

03/08/2013 at 09:21 AM

I have Phantasy Star II, III, and IV on the Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection on ps3. I haven't played them yet, but I'm sick of saying that phrase in comments lol. So which one would you recommend that I start with?

Halochief90

03/09/2013 at 12:32 AM

I started the first one first, and I'm glad I did (I'm also really fond of the title screen for some reason). PSIV is definitely my favorite however. You might want to just play the best one if you've got an ever increasing stack of games.

Surfcaster

03/08/2013 at 09:53 AM

I didn't have any Sega hardware as a kid, so I've never played a single Phatasy Star game. It's weird, though, because I'd usually at least run into a game like this. I saw all kinds of other Sega games, including RPGs like Shining Force, but I didn't even hear of a Phantasy Star game until I was in my 20s.

They do look fun, though, and I am a sucker for sci-fi.

Halochief90

03/09/2013 at 12:44 AM

Well, me neither. I am thankful that Sega has released all these classic collections that made me run into such a great series.

Our Take

Angelo Grant Staff Writer

03/08/2013 at 10:39 AM

Phantasy Star II remains the most hardcore JRPG I've ever played. Probably for some pretty flawed reasons, like maps being overly complex and every room looking identical, but still, it's crazy hard and really grindy.

Ryan Bunting Staff Alumnus

03/08/2013 at 12:48 PM

If you think that's hardcore, try playing Final Fantasy IV: The After Years - the most hardcore jRPG in the strictest sense of the word - intense grinding, straight-out-of-Japan encounter rate.  It's rough, but still a great game (It's a sequel to FF4, how could it not be?).

Halochief90

03/09/2013 at 12:35 AM

Hardcore indeed. I stopped at the point where the dungeons were ridiculously huge and used teleporters which made it impossible to navigate anywhere in the dungeons. I also vaguely remember random enemies wipping me out in seconds!

Jesse Miller Staff Writer

03/08/2013 at 12:25 PM

Phantasy Star IV is one of my all time favorite games.  Everyone should play this game. 

Halochief90

03/09/2013 at 12:40 AM

Yes, I know some fans have preyed for a PSV, but I have hard time believing any developer, little own Sega, could live up to the greatness of this game.

transmet2033

03/08/2013 at 12:40 PM

I remember playing part of the way through Phantasy Star IV and absolutely loving it, sadly I never got back to it.  The $20-30 for a used copy on the genesis seems all the more tempting. 

Halochief90

03/09/2013 at 12:37 AM

That's not bad for a copy of a great, classic game. I would snatch that up if I owned a Genesis or was more of a collector. Otherwise, Sonic's UGC is the way to go since it comes with the whole series.

Chris Iozzi Staff Alumnus

03/08/2013 at 12:57 PM

Some Phantasy Star III love;  PhS3 was rough because it didn't deliver what fans were expecting from part II, particularly what happened after the ending. It didn't quite deliver that Phantasy Star feel and seemed more like a separate RPG. In fact, I always said if this WAS a stand alone RPG with its own story, people would consider it one of the best RPGs for the system.

I admit if I didn't have the hint book that came with the game I probably never would have finished half the dungeons in PhS2, yeah everyone looks the same and are overly complex, on top of that your characters move REALLY slow and random encounters are frequent. Grind haters need not apply.

PhS4 on the other hand is definitely one of the best RPG's ever created. I even prefer it over Chrono Trigger.

Halochief90

03/09/2013 at 12:39 AM

I didn't even try PSIII beyond a few minutes. Maybe it is a good game, but I can't look passed those Phantasy Star expectations.

Man, I had forgotten about the slow movement of the characters. Such pain! I like PSIV over any RPG pre-FFVII.

avidacridjam

03/08/2013 at 02:30 PM

Excellent write-up. This series got me into RPGs and not when I was younger but at 27. The Retronauts episode that focused on this series really inspired me to check the series out and I'm glad I did.

Halochief90

03/09/2013 at 12:42 AM

Retronauts I think inspired me to check out a lot of games. I certainly wouldn't be surprised if one of those podcasts got me interested in PS. Though admittidly, I bought Sonic's UGC more because it was a lot games than that I heard the Phantasy Stars were on it.

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