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Edf 2025,Vampires,and taking the brain out of rpgs!


On 08/07/2014 at 02:45 PM by BrokenH

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"Old rpgs" have more skills....in the bedroom!

Been dividing my time between EDF 2025 and Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines. It’s sort of the perfect blend of mindless fun and good old fashioned rpg mechanics before rpgs began being “dumbed down” for the masses.

Derp force go!

Gauntlet Legends dat you?

Seriously, did you see what they did to Sacred 3?! Trust me, if you played Sacred 1 and Sacred 2 you have a damn good reason to be furious at the derpitude that is Sacred 3. However, I’m sure certain gamers with no knowledge of the prior games will be able to appreciate it as a simple hack n slash. Honestly there’s nothing wrong with arcade heavy game play that’s the equivalent of Gauntlet Legends 3 save for the fact Sacred always had so much more going for it. Remember mounts? Remember quests that could be completed in different ways or even failed yet you‘d be left to live with what transpired even if someone important actually died? Remember a huge open world? Remember the varied worthwhile loot? Remember when Sacred took itself somewhat seriously and the humor it did have wasn’t quite as puerile? Yeah, there‘s a reason I‘m pissed. My advice? Get Torchlight 2, download Path Of Exile, snatch up Titan-quest, look up the older Sacred games, or just wait until Diablo III Reaper Of Souls comes out for the consoles. (Imagining a “dumbed down” Vampire The Masquerade game would give me nightmares so I’ll continue to simply bask in the flawed brilliance that is Bloodlines!)

Okay,stop fighting long enough for the group picture! Aww,that ant is adorable!

More about EDF you say? Well, it’s simply spectacular! My roomie and I have been having loads of fun. Yeah, there’s slow down when there’s a lot of chaos on screen and it ain’t the purdiest damsel on the ballroom floor but massacring waves of giant bugs, spaceships, and robots is shamelessly satisfying. Alex has been filling the role of the bulky power-armor wearing fencer who has 4 weapon slots (And an awesome war hammer to boot) whereas I’ve been jetting around as the glass cannon wing diver. Neither of us have had too many problems though Alex has had to bring me back from the cusp of death a couple of times. However, even though I’m not a hunky damage sponge akin to my buddy, I’ve still had a lot of fun flying around the huge destructive environments that EDF 2025 offers!

Captain Hammer reporting!

Pew,pew,pew!

"Nom,nom,nom!"

Sad as it is to say, EDF 2025 might end up being one of my games of the year. Seriously, I’ve gotten more enjoyment out of this than the majority of AAA shooters that bury us under landslides of misleading hype. When a game is generous enough to offer 4 classes, varied vehicle drops, 81 missions, a leveling up gimmick, a ridiculous plethora of weaponry, and multiple difficulties it sort of makes you stop and ponder why other games of this ilk are so damned stingy. As much as I loved Left 4 Dead do you distinctly recall how it started with only 4 maps? Furthermore, how long are most campaigns in shooters these days? 5 hours tops? As low budget and cheesy as EDF tends to be, it certainly excels in the generosity and replay ability departments. Other developers should really stop and take note of this. My only criticism is getting “webbed” by spiders sucks and it can be difficult to shake oneself free sometimes. However, this feature is not so terrible it breaks the whole game or anything.

Oh, and there’s my drawings. I have so much stuff to color my artistic backlog (if you can call it that, heh) it is ridiculous! If I seem to get swallowed by the antisocial void it will likely be because I’m trying to add more completed projects to my obscure gallery on Deviant-Fart!

 

 


 

Comments

Machocruz

08/07/2014 at 03:17 PM

I've never played a Sacred game, but what they did to 3 is some bullshit. I intend to get on Sacred 1 one of these days.

I'll add Divine Divinity to your list of recommendations.  It's a Diablo-esque game on the surface, but is actually a fully fledged RPG with some rather complex quests, an open world with non-linear progression, charming writing and NPCs. It's so good. I know you played Divinity 2, but DD is different enough to stand on its own.

Basically it gives you some of that Bloodlines RPG depth with Diablo/Sacred/Torchlight action and character building. 

BrokenH

08/07/2014 at 04:55 PM

I'm a proud own of Divinity (Gotten from GOG) and Divinity II: Dragon Knight,Chris. You have good tastes,sir!

Yeah, Sacred 3 is pretty much a prettier version of Gauntlet Legends which is sad considering the series used to be much more complex. (Though still user friendly despite the complexity.)

The only thing I hated about Sacred 1 & 2 were the escort missions but on the other hand you feel pride & accomplishment when you are able to keep someone alive. (And the game goes on even if the escort mission fails)

Blake Turner Staff Writer

08/07/2014 at 03:42 PM

Yeah I heard Sacred 3 was balls. That's unfortunate, as 2 was amazing. Never played 1, but 2 was just super.

 I really need to try EDF, sounds like my kind of game! And VTM is in my top 10 games of all time for a reason. Fuck that game is awesome.

BrokenH

08/07/2014 at 04:58 PM

EDF 2025 harkens back to old school shooter fundamentals,Blake. More guns,more classes,more bugs,more maps,more drops.....more of "everything"! Anyone who liked Time Splitters or Pain-killer should give EDF a shot. Double that recommendation for people who are fans of Starship troopers!  

As for VTM:Bloodlines, it's one of my favorite rpgs ever. It's too bad Activision rushed the original team who worked on it but the fan community has truly made bloodlines shine with unofficial patches and mods!

KnightDriver

08/09/2014 at 04:08 PM

I just missed getting Painkiller: Hell and Damnation on sale on Xbox Live the other week. They added in online co-op play! Why didn't I buy it at $7. ARGH!

BrokenH

08/10/2014 at 06:35 PM

Painkiller is great. Not big on story but it has ridiculously awesome weaponry with enemies straight out of 90's horror movies & Heavy Metal videos! Definitely good for an old school shooter fix.

leeradical42

08/07/2014 at 04:16 PM

Im assuming that they ruined Sacred 3 Sacred 2 was a glitchey but deep hack n slash and I honestly was going to get sacred 3 but if its dumbed down then I will just wait for Diablo III which I know will kick butt.Wink

BrokenH

08/07/2014 at 05:01 PM

They butchered it,man. If you loved Sacred 2 Sacred 3 comes off as a half-hearted thoughtless cash in. Same sad fate that befell Dungeonsiege 3. Frown

KnightDriver

08/09/2014 at 04:09 PM

Dungeon Siege 3 did aweful things to online co-op. The guest players got nothing. So stupid.

BrokenH

08/10/2014 at 06:36 PM

Yeah, I don't understand why a big trend is reviving action-rpg franchises just to make them worse. Yell

xDarthKiLLx

08/07/2014 at 05:37 PM

EDF looks like a good time....Sacred 3 sounds terrible.  I'll be sure to stay away from it!!

BrokenH

08/07/2014 at 05:54 PM

Only thing I might say in Sacred 3's defense is that it might be a good "brain off" game to play with your fam and broskies if you simply like hack n slash games with minimal streamlined rpg elements. Then again, if that's your pie you're probably better off getting Diblo III Reaper Of Souls (consoles & pc) or Torchlight 2 (pc). Put simply, there are a lot of games out there that do what Sacred 3 does much better,Dan. (Including Sacred 2 Gold that's on steam right now) 

Matt Snee Staff Writer

08/07/2014 at 05:55 PM

I couldn't get MAsquerade to work on my old computer.  I used to love the art in that old source book.  

BrokenH

08/07/2014 at 05:59 PM

Back in the day Bloodlines was indeed a "graphics whore",Matt. lol. I imagine when it came out quite a few people had to update their rigs. However, if you get a pc that's current within the last 5 or so years it should run Bloodlines smooth as silk!

Matt Snee Staff Writer

08/07/2014 at 06:11 PM

well, I had a decent computer that could run games.  it just gave me an error when I started it (in Steam) and never figured it out.  Maybe I'll download it on my new computer and try it.  Always wanted to play it.  

BrokenH

08/07/2014 at 06:23 PM

Ah,that's the difference. I own an original copy. Hopefully steam has some kind of solution for that problem.

Matt Snee Staff Writer

08/07/2014 at 06:47 PM

damn do u have the box and everything?  that's sweet.  

BrokenH

08/07/2014 at 10:29 PM

Not so much the box anymore but I have the nice jewel case,Matt. I'm livin the dream!Wink

Cary Woodham

08/07/2014 at 08:21 PM

For some reason, I don't really like vampires.  All that bloodsucking stuff just sounds gross to me.

I reviewed EDF 2025 a while back.  it was pretty fun, and that's a lot for me to say since I don't usually play those kinds of games.  I think that if arcades were still popular, this would've been an arcade game instead.  I always played as the Wing Diver, too!

If you get a chance, check out my new blog.  Also, check your email and/or PMs.  Thanks!  --Cary

BrokenH

08/07/2014 at 10:19 PM

Wing divers are my favorite too,Cary. My only point of contention with them is they have to recharge constantly but then again I also think it was a good idea for every class to have their personal limitations too. It makes it just a little bit of a tactical game amidst the more bombastic moments of simply leveling buildings and blowing bugs away. Personally I also prefer the cheesiness of the game and I'm glad it did not try to be too serious or too melodramatic.


SanAndreas

08/07/2014 at 09:26 PM

I've thought about EDF 2025, and if my personal gaming schedule wasn't so crowded it would be more likely to be bought and played.  I like its style, and that's from someone who isn't very into most shooters.

I passed on Sacred 2. Didn't interest me and Diablo-type games aren't my thing. Looks like it's probably safe to give Sacred 3 a miss too.

BrokenH

08/07/2014 at 10:13 PM

Sacred 1 & 2 were only like Diablo in so far as combat and loot. The first two Sacred games did actually have quests with varied outcomes and there were times you had to make choices. Both games also had very customizable character class building options and the inclusions of mounts was neat. In Sacred Gold I believe you could only use horses but in Sacred 2 every class had a special unique mount. By comparison Sacred 3 is sort of like Gauntlet Legends with okay graphics. They really did simplify it to the point of overkill.

EDF 2025 is a great stress reliever,Andrew! I'm tempted to use the word "mindless fun" but I have found the game does force you to use strategy during certain missions and each of the 4 classes bring something special to the table. The only negatives are a bit of slow down sometimes and that spiders can hit you with webbing even through buildings. It's possible to get out of webbing but pinpointing which spider is hitting you from where is not always as simple as it seems. The game is enjoyable enough going through it alone but it's far more rewarding when co-oping with friends or family.

Alex-C25

08/08/2014 at 05:13 AM

With you and Knight Driver talking wonders about EDF, i'm temped to play the game. Unfortunately, I don't have the console that can play it, so i'm going to wait for the not likely possible to happen Steam port.

BrokenH

08/08/2014 at 01:51 PM

Personally I think EDF 2025 would do very well on steam,Alejandro. Hopefully Sandlot and D3 will finally realize that at some point.

mothman

08/08/2014 at 07:35 AM

Sacred Gold is $2.99 on GOG right now as part of their Midsummer Gamer's Dream Sale. I've never played a Sacred game so I have no idea about them. I got Divine Divinity, Beyond Divinity and Divinity 2 Developers Cut as part of a Humble Bundle. I played a bit of Divinity 2 and it seemed fun

I've heard people say good things about Bloodlines

BrokenH

08/08/2014 at 01:54 PM

Sacred Gold is great,Peter. It's also "huge" so uh,just warning you. lol. I honestly prefer Sacred Gold just a bit over Sacred 2 but everyone is allowed to have their own preference.

Bloodlines is indeed really good (Especially if you update it with the patches from planet vampire) so keep it in mind!

mothman

08/08/2014 at 04:00 PM

I will mate. You haven't steered me wrong yet. Sacred Gold purchased. Bloodlines on the radar

BrokenH

08/08/2014 at 05:09 PM

Best advice I have on Sacred Gold is don't sweat the escort quests. Even if someone you protect dies the game itself is not going to abruptly give you a game-over screen. It just means you failed that mission but hey,there are 100s of other missions! Also, portals can make escort missions easier as they reduce the time you spend on the road or in the wild being attacked by enemies. Have fun,Pete!

GeminiMan78

08/08/2014 at 09:10 AM

Ok, you sold me, putting EDF in my Gamefly Q.lol  I really need to check out the Sacred Games too. They are kind of like Baldurs Gate right?

BrokenH

08/08/2014 at 01:57 PM

Sacred 1 & 2 are from the more complex era of action rpgs,Gemini. Aka nice loot and hundreds of quests. Sacred 3 is more like Gauntlet Legends. In other words,streamlined arcade hack & slashing with a lot less nuances,less options,and a more linear progression. I'm not saying it's impossible to enjoy Sacred 3 for what it is but being I've played the previous two in the series I'm kind of mad at it for what it is not.

But yeah, EDF 2025 is a good buy! It's like playing Starship troopers mixed with cheesy Japanese monster movies!

C.S.3590SquadLeader

08/08/2014 at 11:50 AM

EDF looks like fun.

BrokenH

08/08/2014 at 02:00 PM

It totally is! Good ol pew pewing for hours on end! Only thing I gate are those damned spiders and their web attacks!

NSonic79

08/08/2014 at 01:28 PM

So by that context have console RPG's been always the dumbdown variant than what was originally find on PC's? I only ask because I am seriously considering Diablo III for PS3 later this fall since this has all the goodies and never had the DRM attached to it.

BrokenH

08/08/2014 at 01:59 PM

In the case of Sacred 3 it's just a dumb game,sadly. In other words, getting the pc version will not really improve much. Yeah, I'd go with the Diablo III Reaper Of Souls edition coming to the consoles,mate. It's a much better deal as it includes both Diablo III and its' expansion.

KnightDriver

08/09/2014 at 04:06 PM

Just added Sacred 3 to my list.
I love basic hack 'n slash games.
I'm going to play Diablo III first of course,
but Sacred 3 could be a nice second course.

I'd be playing EDF2025 too
But my friend's X360's drive won't work anymore.
Either I get him a new system
Or I play something else.
So far it's something else.

BrokenH

08/10/2014 at 06:38 PM

If you're looking for something arcadey & simple akin Gauntlet Legends with nicer graphics Sacred 3 should satisfy you, Knight! Sorry about the situation with the ye olde X-box.

KnightDriver

08/12/2014 at 02:43 AM

Yea, it's really messing things up. My friend is out of work and can't afford to fix it and I don't really want to fix it either. I was thinking of getting a PS3 slim and giving him my old one, then we'd have to play everything on PS3. That might happen.

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