Reply #26 - March 18, 2014 07:07 AM EDT |
Chris Yarger
STAFF Posts: 82 Join Date: February 2013 |
I'm about 2 steps behind you Nick (probably 4-5 steps by now, lol). Anyway, are you getting the feeling that Drangleic could possibly be Lordran? |
Reply #27 - March 19, 2014 01:12 PM EDT |
Nick DiMola
STAFF Posts: 111 Join Date: September 2009 |
Chris Yarger said in Reply #26 - March 18, 2014 07:07 AM EDT
I'm about 2 steps behind you Nick (probably 4-5 steps by now, lol). Anyway, are you getting the feeling that Drangleic could possibly be Lordran?
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Reply #28 - March 20, 2014 07:08 AM EDT |
Chris Yarger
STAFF Posts: 82 Join Date: February 2013 |
Nick DiMola said in Reply #27 - March 19, 2014 01:12 PM EDT
Chris Yarger said in Reply #26 - March 18, 2014 07:07 AM EDT
I'm about 2 steps behind you Nick (probably 4-5 steps by now, lol). Anyway, are you getting the feeling that Drangleic could possibly be Lordran?
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Reply #29 - March 24, 2014 02:57 PM EDT |
Michael117
Posts: 46 Join Date: September 2011 |
I started thinking Dragleic is at least in the same world as Lordran if not Lordran right at the beginning of the game. I picked up a divine blessing right when I first came to Majula and it says that the item use to come from an ancient goddess (obviously Gwen's daughter from DS, the divine blessing is tied to her in the description of the item in DS), but in DS2 the divine blessing says that her name was long forgotten and some new church uses them or something. I'm super into Dragleic so far, the vistas from Majula blew my mind, it looks like a fantasy version of ancient Rome with a huge castle in the distance, and apparently a huge aqueduct running through the foreground. I can't wait to see more of the world. I love the idea that this land was either Lordran or some place close and that the events of DS are ancient history long forgotten to most people. It makes me want to see how things have evolved, what types of people, politics, conflicts, and magic have occured in this new time era. This games already fucking cool and I'm barely a few hours in. |
Reply #30 - March 25, 2014 09:53 AM EDT |
Chris Yarger
STAFF Posts: 82 Join Date: February 2013 |
Michael117 said in Reply #29 - March 24, 2014 02:57 PM EDT
I started thinking Dragleic is at least in the same world as Lordran if not Lordran right at the beginning of the game. I picked up a divine blessing right when I first came to Majula and it says that the item use to come from an ancient goddess (obviously Gwen's daughter from DS, the divine blessing is tied to her in the description of the item in DS), but in DS2 the divine blessing says that her name was long forgotten and some new church uses them or something. I'm super into Dragleic so far, the vistas from Majula blew my mind, it looks like a fantasy version of ancient Rome with a huge castle in the distance, and apparently a huge aqueduct running through the foreground. I can't wait to see more of the world. I love the idea that this land was either Lordran or some place close and that the events of DS are ancient history long forgotten to most people. It makes me want to see how things have evolved, what types of people, politics, conflicts, and magic have occured in this new time era. This games already fucking cool and I'm barely a few hours in.
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Reply #31 - April 02, 2014 03:01 PM EDT |
Michael117
Posts: 46 Join Date: September 2011 |
I have some questions about gear and upgrading, especially to Nick and Chris since you both finished the game recently. What kind of experiences did you guys have with picking weapons and armor you liked, and did you upgrade them a lot? How did the progression happen for you guys, did most of your upgrading end up happening in the mid or late game? I've beaten the bosses in the Forest of Fallen Giants, beat Heides tower and the Ornstein-like boss in Blue Cathedral. Based on what I've heard I guess I'm heading into a place called No Mans Wharf next and then whatever is beyond that. I'm still using gear I found super early on and I haven't found anything to replace it all yet. I'm doing leather armor +3 and using a Fire Longsword +4. I'm trying to build a character that is strong with both the bow and can handle some melee when needed, but I'm still stuck with the shortbow and I've upgraded it to +2. So far I haven't found bow combat to be even nearly as useful to me as it was in DS1, but I'm holding out hope that I'll come across a better bow, better arrows, and all my DEX points won't be a waste. Like I said, I have the light armor, fire longsword, and the shortbow and they're all upgraded at least a couple times but I'm thinking about stopping there because I don't know if rad light armors, light swords, and bows are coming up soon. I don't know what kind of equipment might be available and if I need to be patient and save materials and souls. |
Reply #32 - April 02, 2014 03:20 PM EDT |
Chris Yarger
STAFF Posts: 82 Join Date: February 2013 |
Michael117 said in Reply #31 - April 02, 2014 03:01 PM EDT
I have some questions about gear and upgrading, especially to Nick and Chris since you both finished the game recently. What kind of experiences did you guys have with picking weapons and armor you liked, and did you upgrade them a lot? How did the progression happen for you guys, did most of your upgrading end up happening in the mid or late game? I've beaten the bosses in the Forest of Fallen Giants, beat Heides tower and the Ornstein-like boss in Blue Cathedral. Based on what I've heard I guess I'm heading into a place called No Mans Wharf next and then whatever is beyond that. I'm still using gear I found super early on and I haven't found anything to replace it all yet. I'm doing leather armor +3 and using a Fire Longsword +4. I'm trying to build a character that is strong with both the bow and can handle some melee when needed, but I'm still stuck with the shortbow and I've upgraded it to +2. So far I haven't found bow combat to be even nearly as useful to me as it was in DS1, but I'm holding out hope that I'll come across a better bow, better arrows, and all my DEX points won't be a waste. Like I said, I have the light armor, fire longsword, and the shortbow and they're all upgraded at least a couple times but I'm thinking about stopping there because I don't know if rad light armors, light swords, and bows are coming up soon. I don't know what kind of equipment might be available and if I need to be patient and save materials and souls. Basically; for a weapon, I found something in which I really liked in terms of move-set and weight, and I focused solely on that class of weapon. Since you've beaten the Pursuer already, you have probably found the complete Drangleic item set (fall down the crevice immediately after Pursuer and you'll find it). Not only is the set incredible for the early stages of the game (first 100% physical block shield you'll find), it also happens to have a great weapon along with it that pretty much paved my way throughout the rest of the game; the Drangleic Sword. The Drangleic Sword is classified as a Great Sword (ie; Bastard Sword), and I personally found that it's move set is exactly the type of maneuvering in which I want to build my character around [Side note: There IS a Bastard Sword in Giants Forest through a side door, you need a key though and I can't remember exactly where it is. I'd highly recommend Bastard over Drangleic simply because it does more damage and scales better]. Once I found a weapon I was comfortable with, I began to level it to +6 since Titanite Shards and Large Titanite Shards are relatively easy to come by in the earlier stages of the game. As for armor; I used the Llewellyn Set for most of the game. It's found a bit further into the game, but it's incredibly light, yet incredibly powerful when it's levelled. For Gloves and Leggings, farm the massive Knights found around Heidi Tower, because they drop some incredible gear that can be levelled into something beastly.
However; that was all based around my Strength build. As for Bows... I'm not entirely sure, but I'm fairly certain that I found a Compound Bow fairly early (Nick, can you confirm this?).
And one more point of advice; if you're not liking the stats you've allocated so far (let's say you want to switch from dex to strength build), you can re-roll your stats by taking a Soul Vessel to the Fire Keepers in Things Betwixt. You can actually find a Soul Vessel in Majula within the basement of the Mansion. If you need the key yet, you can find the NPC named Cale within the Forest of Giants (Drop down the platforms shortly AFTER Cardinal Tower bonfire), located within a cave. You should be able to find 5-6 Soul Vessels throughout the game, so feel free to use them to test out different builds, or to switch things up as you find new equipment! Hope this helps man!
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Reply #33 - April 02, 2014 03:23 PM EDT |
Chris Yarger
STAFF Posts: 82 Join Date: February 2013 |
Also... Since I liked the Drangleic and Bastard Sword so much, I looked for other weapons within the same class and stuck with them as much as possible (for the similar moveset since I was most comfortable with it). I basically judged my weaponry based upon damage potential and scaling factors. In the end, I finished the game with a +10 Mastadon Great Sword, and I loved it!! |
Reply #34 - April 07, 2014 09:25 PM EDT |
asrealasitgets
Posts: 91 Join Date: February 2013 |
Chris Yarger said in Reply #32 - April 02, 2014 03:20 PM EDT
Michael117 said in Reply #31 - April 02, 2014 03:01 PM EDT
I have some questions about gear and upgrading, especially to Nick and Chris since you both finished the game recently. What kind of experiences did you guys have with picking weapons and armor you liked, and did you upgrade them a lot? How did the progression happen for you guys, did most of your upgrading end up happening in the mid or late game? I've beaten the bosses in the Forest of Fallen Giants, beat Heides tower and the Ornstein-like boss in Blue Cathedral. Based on what I've heard I guess I'm heading into a place called No Mans Wharf next and then whatever is beyond that. I'm still using gear I found super early on and I haven't found anything to replace it all yet. I'm doing leather armor +3 and using a Fire Longsword +4. I'm trying to build a character that is strong with both the bow and can handle some melee when needed, but I'm still stuck with the shortbow and I've upgraded it to +2. So far I haven't found bow combat to be even nearly as useful to me as it was in DS1, but I'm holding out hope that I'll come across a better bow, better arrows, and all my DEX points won't be a waste. Like I said, I have the light armor, fire longsword, and the shortbow and they're all upgraded at least a couple times but I'm thinking about stopping there because I don't know if rad light armors, light swords, and bows are coming up soon. I don't know what kind of equipment might be available and if I need to be patient and save materials and souls. Basically; for a weapon, I found something in which I really liked in terms of move-set and weight, and I focused solely on that class of weapon. Since you've beaten the Pursuer already, you have probably found the complete Drangleic item set (fall down the crevice immediately after Pursuer and you'll find it). Not only is the set incredible for the early stages of the game (first 100% physical block shield you'll find), it also happens to have a great weapon along with it that pretty much paved my way throughout the rest of the game; the Drangleic Sword. The Drangleic Sword is classified as a Great Sword (ie; Bastard Sword), and I personally found that it's move set is exactly the type of maneuvering in which I want to build my character around [Side note: There IS a Bastard Sword in Giants Forest through a side door, you need a key though and I can't remember exactly where it is. I'd highly recommend Bastard over Drangleic simply because it does more damage and scales better]. Once I found a weapon I was comfortable with, I began to level it to +6 since Titanite Shards and Large Titanite Shards are relatively easy to come by in the earlier stages of the game. As for armor; I used the Llewellyn Set for most of the game. It's found a bit further into the game, but it's incredibly light, yet incredibly powerful when it's levelled. For Gloves and Leggings, farm the massive Knights found around Heidi Tower, because they drop some incredible gear that can be levelled into something beastly.
However; that was all based around my Strength build. As for Bows... I'm not entirely sure, but I'm fairly certain that I found a Compound Bow fairly early (Nick, can you confirm this?).
And one more point of advice; if you're not liking the stats you've allocated so far (let's say you want to switch from dex to strength build), you can re-roll your stats by taking a Soul Vessel to the Fire Keepers in Things Betwixt. You can actually find a Soul Vessel in Majula within the basement of the Mansion. If you need the key yet, you can find the NPC named Cale within the Forest of Giants (Drop down the platforms shortly AFTER Cardinal Tower bonfire), located within a cave. You should be able to find 5-6 Soul Vessels throughout the game, so feel free to use them to test out different builds, or to switch things up as you find new equipment! Hope this helps man!
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Reply #35 - April 08, 2014 06:50 AM EDT |
Chris Yarger
STAFF Posts: 82 Join Date: February 2013 |
asrealasitgets said in Reply #34 - April 07, 2014 09:25 PM EDT
Chris Yarger said in Reply #32 - April 02, 2014 03:20 PM EDT
Michael117 said in Reply #31 - April 02, 2014 03:01 PM EDT
I have some questions about gear and upgrading, especially to Nick and Chris since you both finished the game recently. What kind of experiences did you guys have with picking weapons and armor you liked, and did you upgrade them a lot? How did the progression happen for you guys, did most of your upgrading end up happening in the mid or late game? I've beaten the bosses in the Forest of Fallen Giants, beat Heides tower and the Ornstein-like boss in Blue Cathedral. Based on what I've heard I guess I'm heading into a place called No Mans Wharf next and then whatever is beyond that. I'm still using gear I found super early on and I haven't found anything to replace it all yet. I'm doing leather armor +3 and using a Fire Longsword +4. I'm trying to build a character that is strong with both the bow and can handle some melee when needed, but I'm still stuck with the shortbow and I've upgraded it to +2. So far I haven't found bow combat to be even nearly as useful to me as it was in DS1, but I'm holding out hope that I'll come across a better bow, better arrows, and all my DEX points won't be a waste. Like I said, I have the light armor, fire longsword, and the shortbow and they're all upgraded at least a couple times but I'm thinking about stopping there because I don't know if rad light armors, light swords, and bows are coming up soon. I don't know what kind of equipment might be available and if I need to be patient and save materials and souls. Basically; for a weapon, I found something in which I really liked in terms of move-set and weight, and I focused solely on that class of weapon. Since you've beaten the Pursuer already, you have probably found the complete Drangleic item set (fall down the crevice immediately after Pursuer and you'll find it). Not only is the set incredible for the early stages of the game (first 100% physical block shield you'll find), it also happens to have a great weapon along with it that pretty much paved my way throughout the rest of the game; the Drangleic Sword. The Drangleic Sword is classified as a Great Sword (ie; Bastard Sword), and I personally found that it's move set is exactly the type of maneuvering in which I want to build my character around [Side note: There IS a Bastard Sword in Giants Forest through a side door, you need a key though and I can't remember exactly where it is. I'd highly recommend Bastard over Drangleic simply because it does more damage and scales better]. Once I found a weapon I was comfortable with, I began to level it to +6 since Titanite Shards and Large Titanite Shards are relatively easy to come by in the earlier stages of the game. As for armor; I used the Llewellyn Set for most of the game. It's found a bit further into the game, but it's incredibly light, yet incredibly powerful when it's levelled. For Gloves and Leggings, farm the massive Knights found around Heidi Tower, because they drop some incredible gear that can be levelled into something beastly.
However; that was all based around my Strength build. As for Bows... I'm not entirely sure, but I'm fairly certain that I found a Compound Bow fairly early (Nick, can you confirm this?).
And one more point of advice; if you're not liking the stats you've allocated so far (let's say you want to switch from dex to strength build), you can re-roll your stats by taking a Soul Vessel to the Fire Keepers in Things Betwixt. You can actually find a Soul Vessel in Majula within the basement of the Mansion. If you need the key yet, you can find the NPC named Cale within the Forest of Giants (Drop down the platforms shortly AFTER Cardinal Tower bonfire), located within a cave. You should be able to find 5-6 Soul Vessels throughout the game, so feel free to use them to test out different builds, or to switch things up as you find new equipment! Hope this helps man!
Honestly, the worst part is the beginning few areas, simply because you don't have a proper weapon until you're halfway through the Forest of the Giants. Once you get a weapon that suits you in the early stages, the rest becomes a cake-walk! |
Reply #36 - April 08, 2014 03:24 PM EDT |
xDarthKiLLx
Posts: 76 Join Date: March 2014 |
Chris Yarger said in Reply #35 - April 08, 2014 06:50 AM EDT
asrealasitgets said in Reply #34 - April 07, 2014 09:25 PM EDT
Chris Yarger said in Reply #32 - April 02, 2014 03:20 PM EDT
Michael117 said in Reply #31 - April 02, 2014 03:01 PM EDT
I have some questions about gear and upgrading, especially to Nick and Chris since you both finished the game recently. What kind of experiences did you guys have with picking weapons and armor you liked, and did you upgrade them a lot? How did the progression happen for you guys, did most of your upgrading end up happening in the mid or late game? I've beaten the bosses in the Forest of Fallen Giants, beat Heides tower and the Ornstein-like boss in Blue Cathedral. Based on what I've heard I guess I'm heading into a place called No Mans Wharf next and then whatever is beyond that. I'm still using gear I found super early on and I haven't found anything to replace it all yet. I'm doing leather armor +3 and using a Fire Longsword +4. I'm trying to build a character that is strong with both the bow and can handle some melee when needed, but I'm still stuck with the shortbow and I've upgraded it to +2. So far I haven't found bow combat to be even nearly as useful to me as it was in DS1, but I'm holding out hope that I'll come across a better bow, better arrows, and all my DEX points won't be a waste. Like I said, I have the light armor, fire longsword, and the shortbow and they're all upgraded at least a couple times but I'm thinking about stopping there because I don't know if rad light armors, light swords, and bows are coming up soon. I don't know what kind of equipment might be available and if I need to be patient and save materials and souls. Basically; for a weapon, I found something in which I really liked in terms of move-set and weight, and I focused solely on that class of weapon. Since you've beaten the Pursuer already, you have probably found the complete Drangleic item set (fall down the crevice immediately after Pursuer and you'll find it). Not only is the set incredible for the early stages of the game (first 100% physical block shield you'll find), it also happens to have a great weapon along with it that pretty much paved my way throughout the rest of the game; the Drangleic Sword. The Drangleic Sword is classified as a Great Sword (ie; Bastard Sword), and I personally found that it's move set is exactly the type of maneuvering in which I want to build my character around [Side note: There IS a Bastard Sword in Giants Forest through a side door, you need a key though and I can't remember exactly where it is. I'd highly recommend Bastard over Drangleic simply because it does more damage and scales better]. Once I found a weapon I was comfortable with, I began to level it to +6 since Titanite Shards and Large Titanite Shards are relatively easy to come by in the earlier stages of the game. As for armor; I used the Llewellyn Set for most of the game. It's found a bit further into the game, but it's incredibly light, yet incredibly powerful when it's levelled. For Gloves and Leggings, farm the massive Knights found around Heidi Tower, because they drop some incredible gear that can be levelled into something beastly.
However; that was all based around my Strength build. As for Bows... I'm not entirely sure, but I'm fairly certain that I found a Compound Bow fairly early (Nick, can you confirm this?).
And one more point of advice; if you're not liking the stats you've allocated so far (let's say you want to switch from dex to strength build), you can re-roll your stats by taking a Soul Vessel to the Fire Keepers in Things Betwixt. You can actually find a Soul Vessel in Majula within the basement of the Mansion. If you need the key yet, you can find the NPC named Cale within the Forest of Giants (Drop down the platforms shortly AFTER Cardinal Tower bonfire), located within a cave. You should be able to find 5-6 Soul Vessels throughout the game, so feel free to use them to test out different builds, or to switch things up as you find new equipment! Hope this helps man!
Honestly, the worst part is the beginning few areas, simply because you don't have a proper weapon until you're halfway through the Forest of the Giants. Once you get a weapon that suits you in the early stages, the rest becomes a cake-walk!
Anyhow, just an observation. |
Reply #37 - April 08, 2014 05:46 PM EDT |
asrealasitgets
Posts: 91 Join Date: February 2013 |
xDarthKiLLx said in Reply #36 - April 08, 2014 03:24 PM EDT
Chris Yarger said in Reply #35 - April 08, 2014 06:50 AM EDT
asrealasitgets said in Reply #34 - April 07, 2014 09:25 PM EDT
Chris Yarger said in Reply #32 - April 02, 2014 03:20 PM EDT
Michael117 said in Reply #31 - April 02, 2014 03:01 PM EDT
I have some questions about gear and upgrading, especially to Nick and Chris since you both finished the game recently. What kind of experiences did you guys have with picking weapons and armor you liked, and did you upgrade them a lot? How did the progression happen for you guys, did most of your upgrading end up happening in the mid or late game? I've beaten the bosses in the Forest of Fallen Giants, beat Heides tower and the Ornstein-like boss in Blue Cathedral. Based on what I've heard I guess I'm heading into a place called No Mans Wharf next and then whatever is beyond that. I'm still using gear I found super early on and I haven't found anything to replace it all yet. I'm doing leather armor +3 and using a Fire Longsword +4. I'm trying to build a character that is strong with both the bow and can handle some melee when needed, but I'm still stuck with the shortbow and I've upgraded it to +2. So far I haven't found bow combat to be even nearly as useful to me as it was in DS1, but I'm holding out hope that I'll come across a better bow, better arrows, and all my DEX points won't be a waste. Like I said, I have the light armor, fire longsword, and the shortbow and they're all upgraded at least a couple times but I'm thinking about stopping there because I don't know if rad light armors, light swords, and bows are coming up soon. I don't know what kind of equipment might be available and if I need to be patient and save materials and souls. Basically; for a weapon, I found something in which I really liked in terms of move-set and weight, and I focused solely on that class of weapon. Since you've beaten the Pursuer already, you have probably found the complete Drangleic item set (fall down the crevice immediately after Pursuer and you'll find it). Not only is the set incredible for the early stages of the game (first 100% physical block shield you'll find), it also happens to have a great weapon along with it that pretty much paved my way throughout the rest of the game; the Drangleic Sword. The Drangleic Sword is classified as a Great Sword (ie; Bastard Sword), and I personally found that it's move set is exactly the type of maneuvering in which I want to build my character around [Side note: There IS a Bastard Sword in Giants Forest through a side door, you need a key though and I can't remember exactly where it is. I'd highly recommend Bastard over Drangleic simply because it does more damage and scales better]. Once I found a weapon I was comfortable with, I began to level it to +6 since Titanite Shards and Large Titanite Shards are relatively easy to come by in the earlier stages of the game. As for armor; I used the Llewellyn Set for most of the game. It's found a bit further into the game, but it's incredibly light, yet incredibly powerful when it's levelled. For Gloves and Leggings, farm the massive Knights found around Heidi Tower, because they drop some incredible gear that can be levelled into something beastly.
However; that was all based around my Strength build. As for Bows... I'm not entirely sure, but I'm fairly certain that I found a Compound Bow fairly early (Nick, can you confirm this?).
And one more point of advice; if you're not liking the stats you've allocated so far (let's say you want to switch from dex to strength build), you can re-roll your stats by taking a Soul Vessel to the Fire Keepers in Things Betwixt. You can actually find a Soul Vessel in Majula within the basement of the Mansion. If you need the key yet, you can find the NPC named Cale within the Forest of Giants (Drop down the platforms shortly AFTER Cardinal Tower bonfire), located within a cave. You should be able to find 5-6 Soul Vessels throughout the game, so feel free to use them to test out different builds, or to switch things up as you find new equipment! Hope this helps man!
Honestly, the worst part is the beginning few areas, simply because you don't have a proper weapon until you're halfway through the Forest of the Giants. Once you get a weapon that suits you in the early stages, the rest becomes a cake-walk!
Anyhow, just an observation.
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Reply #38 - April 08, 2014 05:51 PM EDT |
asrealasitgets
Posts: 91 Join Date: February 2013 |
*uses stone to summon a Yarger phantom...waiting...waiting... I had a question about Demons Souls. Not sure this is the right thread but anyway, I never played through a New Game+. I just played through to the last boss and never went back. My question is, am I missing out on something by not doing a New Game+? I read good and bad things about it. Like that the game is harder, or the bosses are harder in New Game+ and that your char build will work against you if you didnt level up properly the first time around? I don't know what to believe? Is it worth playing through New Game+ in Demons Souls or not? Anyone else done this? I know the game is old now, but its still a classic and worth bringing up again in my opinion. Thoughts? Thought? Also big F U to the blue dragon at the end of 1-4. Seriously FU and your flame breath blocking shit!!!
Modified by asrealasitgets on April 08, 2014 05:53 PM EDT.
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Reply #39 - April 08, 2014 07:25 PM EDT |
xDarthKiLLx
Posts: 76 Join Date: March 2014 |
asrealasitgets said in Reply #37 - April 08, 2014 05:46 PM EDT
xDarthKiLLx said in Reply #36 - April 08, 2014 03:24 PM EDT
Chris Yarger said in Reply #35 - April 08, 2014 06:50 AM EDT
asrealasitgets said in Reply #34 - April 07, 2014 09:25 PM EDT
Chris Yarger said in Reply #32 - April 02, 2014 03:20 PM EDT
Michael117 said in Reply #31 - April 02, 2014 03:01 PM EDT
I have some questions about gear and upgrading, especially to Nick and Chris since you both finished the game recently. What kind of experiences did you guys have with picking weapons and armor you liked, and did you upgrade them a lot? How did the progression happen for you guys, did most of your upgrading end up happening in the mid or late game? I've beaten the bosses in the Forest of Fallen Giants, beat Heides tower and the Ornstein-like boss in Blue Cathedral. Based on what I've heard I guess I'm heading into a place called No Mans Wharf next and then whatever is beyond that. I'm still using gear I found super early on and I haven't found anything to replace it all yet. I'm doing leather armor +3 and using a Fire Longsword +4. I'm trying to build a character that is strong with both the bow and can handle some melee when needed, but I'm still stuck with the shortbow and I've upgraded it to +2. So far I haven't found bow combat to be even nearly as useful to me as it was in DS1, but I'm holding out hope that I'll come across a better bow, better arrows, and all my DEX points won't be a waste. Like I said, I have the light armor, fire longsword, and the shortbow and they're all upgraded at least a couple times but I'm thinking about stopping there because I don't know if rad light armors, light swords, and bows are coming up soon. I don't know what kind of equipment might be available and if I need to be patient and save materials and souls. Basically; for a weapon, I found something in which I really liked in terms of move-set and weight, and I focused solely on that class of weapon. Since you've beaten the Pursuer already, you have probably found the complete Drangleic item set (fall down the crevice immediately after Pursuer and you'll find it). Not only is the set incredible for the early stages of the game (first 100% physical block shield you'll find), it also happens to have a great weapon along with it that pretty much paved my way throughout the rest of the game; the Drangleic Sword. The Drangleic Sword is classified as a Great Sword (ie; Bastard Sword), and I personally found that it's move set is exactly the type of maneuvering in which I want to build my character around [Side note: There IS a Bastard Sword in Giants Forest through a side door, you need a key though and I can't remember exactly where it is. I'd highly recommend Bastard over Drangleic simply because it does more damage and scales better]. Once I found a weapon I was comfortable with, I began to level it to +6 since Titanite Shards and Large Titanite Shards are relatively easy to come by in the earlier stages of the game. As for armor; I used the Llewellyn Set for most of the game. It's found a bit further into the game, but it's incredibly light, yet incredibly powerful when it's levelled. For Gloves and Leggings, farm the massive Knights found around Heidi Tower, because they drop some incredible gear that can be levelled into something beastly.
However; that was all based around my Strength build. As for Bows... I'm not entirely sure, but I'm fairly certain that I found a Compound Bow fairly early (Nick, can you confirm this?).
And one more point of advice; if you're not liking the stats you've allocated so far (let's say you want to switch from dex to strength build), you can re-roll your stats by taking a Soul Vessel to the Fire Keepers in Things Betwixt. You can actually find a Soul Vessel in Majula within the basement of the Mansion. If you need the key yet, you can find the NPC named Cale within the Forest of Giants (Drop down the platforms shortly AFTER Cardinal Tower bonfire), located within a cave. You should be able to find 5-6 Soul Vessels throughout the game, so feel free to use them to test out different builds, or to switch things up as you find new equipment! Hope this helps man!
Honestly, the worst part is the beginning few areas, simply because you don't have a proper weapon until you're halfway through the Forest of the Giants. Once you get a weapon that suits you in the early stages, the rest becomes a cake-walk!
Anyhow, just an observation.
I tried to get into DS2 as well, just couldn't get into it. I dunno....maybe I'm not hardcore enough lol. I still want to give DS1 another shot though......overall, the gameplay just felt better to me. I'd go so far as to opine that DS1 is better. Just my opinion!!! |
Reply #40 - April 08, 2014 09:02 PM EDT |
asrealasitgets
Posts: 91 Join Date: February 2013 |
xDarthKiLLx said in Reply #39 - April 08, 2014 07:25 PM EDT
asrealasitgets said in Reply #37 - April 08, 2014 05:46 PM EDT
xDarthKiLLx said in Reply #36 - April 08, 2014 03:24 PM EDT
Chris Yarger said in Reply #35 - April 08, 2014 06:50 AM EDT
asrealasitgets said in Reply #34 - April 07, 2014 09:25 PM EDT
Chris Yarger said in Reply #32 - April 02, 2014 03:20 PM EDT
Michael117 said in Reply #31 - April 02, 2014 03:01 PM EDT
I have some questions about gear and upgrading, especially to Nick and Chris since you both finished the game recently. What kind of experiences did you guys have with picking weapons and armor you liked, and did you upgrade them a lot? How did the progression happen for you guys, did most of your upgrading end up happening in the mid or late game? I've beaten the bosses in the Forest of Fallen Giants, beat Heides tower and the Ornstein-like boss in Blue Cathedral. Based on what I've heard I guess I'm heading into a place called No Mans Wharf next and then whatever is beyond that. I'm still using gear I found super early on and I haven't found anything to replace it all yet. I'm doing leather armor +3 and using a Fire Longsword +4. I'm trying to build a character that is strong with both the bow and can handle some melee when needed, but I'm still stuck with the shortbow and I've upgraded it to +2. So far I haven't found bow combat to be even nearly as useful to me as it was in DS1, but I'm holding out hope that I'll come across a better bow, better arrows, and all my DEX points won't be a waste. Like I said, I have the light armor, fire longsword, and the shortbow and they're all upgraded at least a couple times but I'm thinking about stopping there because I don't know if rad light armors, light swords, and bows are coming up soon. I don't know what kind of equipment might be available and if I need to be patient and save materials and souls. Basically; for a weapon, I found something in which I really liked in terms of move-set and weight, and I focused solely on that class of weapon. Since you've beaten the Pursuer already, you have probably found the complete Drangleic item set (fall down the crevice immediately after Pursuer and you'll find it). Not only is the set incredible for the early stages of the game (first 100% physical block shield you'll find), it also happens to have a great weapon along with it that pretty much paved my way throughout the rest of the game; the Drangleic Sword. The Drangleic Sword is classified as a Great Sword (ie; Bastard Sword), and I personally found that it's move set is exactly the type of maneuvering in which I want to build my character around [Side note: There IS a Bastard Sword in Giants Forest through a side door, you need a key though and I can't remember exactly where it is. I'd highly recommend Bastard over Drangleic simply because it does more damage and scales better]. Once I found a weapon I was comfortable with, I began to level it to +6 since Titanite Shards and Large Titanite Shards are relatively easy to come by in the earlier stages of the game. As for armor; I used the Llewellyn Set for most of the game. It's found a bit further into the game, but it's incredibly light, yet incredibly powerful when it's levelled. For Gloves and Leggings, farm the massive Knights found around Heidi Tower, because they drop some incredible gear that can be levelled into something beastly.
However; that was all based around my Strength build. As for Bows... I'm not entirely sure, but I'm fairly certain that I found a Compound Bow fairly early (Nick, can you confirm this?).
And one more point of advice; if you're not liking the stats you've allocated so far (let's say you want to switch from dex to strength build), you can re-roll your stats by taking a Soul Vessel to the Fire Keepers in Things Betwixt. You can actually find a Soul Vessel in Majula within the basement of the Mansion. If you need the key yet, you can find the NPC named Cale within the Forest of Giants (Drop down the platforms shortly AFTER Cardinal Tower bonfire), located within a cave. You should be able to find 5-6 Soul Vessels throughout the game, so feel free to use them to test out different builds, or to switch things up as you find new equipment! Hope this helps man!
Honestly, the worst part is the beginning few areas, simply because you don't have a proper weapon until you're halfway through the Forest of the Giants. Once you get a weapon that suits you in the early stages, the rest becomes a cake-walk!
Anyhow, just an observation.
I tried to get into DS2 as well, just couldn't get into it. I dunno....maybe I'm not hardcore enough lol. I still want to give DS1 another shot though......overall, the gameplay just felt better to me. I'd go so far as to opine that DS1 is better. Just my opinion!!!
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Reply #41 - April 09, 2014 06:18 AM EDT |
Chris Yarger
STAFF Posts: 82 Join Date: February 2013 |
asrealasitgets said in Reply #38 - April 08, 2014 05:51 PM EDT
*uses stone to summon a Yarger phantom...waiting...waiting... I had a question about Demons Souls. Not sure this is the right thread but anyway, I never played through a New Game+. I just played through to the last boss and never went back. My question is, am I missing out on something by not doing a New Game+? I read good and bad things about it. Like that the game is harder, or the bosses are harder in New Game+ and that your char build will work against you if you didnt level up properly the first time around? I don't know what to believe? Is it worth playing through New Game+ in Demons Souls or not? Anyone else done this? I know the game is old now, but its still a classic and worth bringing up again in my opinion. Thoughts? Thought? Also big F U to the blue dragon at the end of 1-4. Seriously FU and your flame breath blocking shit!!!
Also; for mage builds, they're by far one of the best builds in DS2. The problem with them in DS1 is that there was no way to restock your spell charges unless you rested at a Fire. In DS2 however, there are now items that you can use to replenish your magic charges so you can keep pushing onward. |
Reply #42 - April 10, 2014 07:13 PM EDT |
Michael117
Posts: 46 Join Date: September 2011 |
Well, things just took a turn for the worse. I came to a bug that might make the game unplayable from this point on. I went all the way through Earthen Peak to the boss and the room is filled with poison, there's no way I can beat the lady there with the pool of poison, so I went online to see if you can get rid of it and apparently you need to use your torch to burn the windmill and the gears will stop everywhere, and the poison will leave the boss room. I burned the windmill where you're suppose to and the poison won't empty. A lot of people are having the same problem according to forums and comments in various places. I have the poisonbite ring, some gear with decent enough resistance, and I'm really high level already, but there's still no way. I also don't have XBL Gold so I can't summon help. I have an Elizabeth Mushroom that slowly restores health over time, but I only have one and that might not be enough and it might not heal quick enough. Plus it's the only one so if I die, that's that. I don't have enough health to just tank it out, my HP gets sapped within a few moments so I can't manage that and deal with the boss at the same time. I only have a limited number of poison mosses because I accidently killed the asshole that sells them in No Mans Wharf. You can revive him by paying souls to talk to his ghost, but he still only sells a limited number. Reloading the save or restarting the console doesn't fix it, doing the things you'd normally do haven't worked. Other people have had the exact same problem and haven't found a fix. I'll use up that mushroom, try my best and see what happens, but I probably won't get past this boss. If the bug doesn't get patched soon I'll have to restart the game, pour another 40 hours in, and make it to Earthen Peak just hoping that restarting the game fixed it. That would suck, I don't want to do that. DSII has been pretty good so far but it's not good enough to make me want to do all this over again.
Modified by Michael117 on April 10, 2014 07:16 PM EDT.
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Reply #43 - April 11, 2014 11:22 AM EDT |
bullet656
Posts: 24 Join Date: February 2013 |
Michael117 said in Reply #42 - April 10, 2014 07:13 PM EDT
Well, things just took a turn for the worse. I came to a bug that might make the game unplayable from this point on. I went all the way through Earthen Peak to the boss and the room is filled with poison, there's no way I can beat the lady there with the pool of poison, so I went online to see if you can get rid of it and apparently you need to use your torch to burn the windmill and the gears will stop everywhere, and the poison will leave the boss room. I burned the windmill where you're suppose to and the poison won't empty. A lot of people are having the same problem according to forums and comments in various places. I have the poisonbite ring, some gear with decent enough resistance, and I'm really high level already, but there's still no way. I also don't have XBL Gold so I can't summon help. I have an Elizabeth Mushroom that slowly restores health over time, but I only have one and that might not be enough and it might not heal quick enough. Plus it's the only one so if I die, that's that. I don't have enough health to just tank it out, my HP gets sapped within a few moments so I can't manage that and deal with the boss at the same time. I only have a limited number of poison mosses because I accidently killed the asshole that sells them in No Mans Wharf. You can revive him by paying souls to talk to his ghost, but he still only sells a limited number. Reloading the save or restarting the console doesn't fix it, doing the things you'd normally do haven't worked. Other people have had the exact same problem and haven't found a fix. I'll use up that mushroom, try my best and see what happens, but I probably won't get past this boss. If the bug doesn't get patched soon I'll have to restart the game, pour another 40 hours in, and make it to Earthen Peak just hoping that restarting the game fixed it. That would suck, I don't want to do that. DSII has been pretty good so far but it's not good enough to make me want to do all this over again.
That sucks man. Hopefully you'll beat her. I found her to be one of the easist bosses for me, but I have a tank build and just kept circling and blocking and she was never able to break my guard. |
Reply #44 - April 11, 2014 05:05 PM EDT |
Michael117
Posts: 46 Join Date: September 2011 |
bullet656 said in Reply #43 - April 11, 2014 11:22 AM EDT
Michael117 said in Reply #42 - April 10, 2014 07:13 PM EDT
Well, things just took a turn for the worse. I came to a bug that might make the game unplayable from this point on. I went all the way through Earthen Peak to the boss and the room is filled with poison, there's no way I can beat the lady there with the pool of poison, so I went online to see if you can get rid of it and apparently you need to use your torch to burn the windmill and the gears will stop everywhere, and the poison will leave the boss room. I burned the windmill where you're suppose to and the poison won't empty. A lot of people are having the same problem according to forums and comments in various places. I have the poisonbite ring, some gear with decent enough resistance, and I'm really high level already, but there's still no way. I also don't have XBL Gold so I can't summon help. I have an Elizabeth Mushroom that slowly restores health over time, but I only have one and that might not be enough and it might not heal quick enough. Plus it's the only one so if I die, that's that. I don't have enough health to just tank it out, my HP gets sapped within a few moments so I can't manage that and deal with the boss at the same time. I only have a limited number of poison mosses because I accidently killed the asshole that sells them in No Mans Wharf. You can revive him by paying souls to talk to his ghost, but he still only sells a limited number. Reloading the save or restarting the console doesn't fix it, doing the things you'd normally do haven't worked. Other people have had the exact same problem and haven't found a fix. I'll use up that mushroom, try my best and see what happens, but I probably won't get past this boss. If the bug doesn't get patched soon I'll have to restart the game, pour another 40 hours in, and make it to Earthen Peak just hoping that restarting the game fixed it. That would suck, I don't want to do that. DSII has been pretty good so far but it's not good enough to make me want to do all this over again.
That sucks man. Hopefully you'll beat her. I found her to be one of the easist bosses for me, but I have a tank build and just kept circling and blocking and she was never able to break my guard.
Actually I have a single soul vessel I found in the mansion in Majula. I might not have to start the game over, maybe I could just use it to respec my character.
Modified by Michael117 on April 11, 2014 05:09 PM EDT.
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Reply #45 - April 11, 2014 05:48 PM EDT |
bullet656
Posts: 24 Join Date: February 2013 |
Do you not have any space at all without poison in the boss room? As I said, I didn't enter the boss room until after I set fire to the windmill, so I don't know if it would have been worse if I didn't burn it, but I had a square in the middle of the pool where I could run around on without getting poisoned I just tried to make sure I never stepped off of it (even though I still did a few times), and when she went over it I would just run back and make her come to me. I did have the ring on that raised poison stats just in case though. I think I became poisoned once or twice but just tried to ride it out by blocking and using an estus flask when my health got really low. I just kept my shield up and kept circling until she finished an attack, then would take one or two swings at her. I'm at level 112 and have put most of my stats into strength and dexterity once I was able to carry whatever I wanted to: VGR-12, End-17, VIT-25,STR-40, DEX-32, ADP-16. I'm using the Drangleic Sword/Mail/Gauntlets/Leggings and the Tower Shield, plus wearing rings to increase my defense and attack. I haven't been reading much on the internet, so I have no idea how my level compares to others at this point, but I've spent a good amount of time grinding in the game.
Modified by bullet656 on April 11, 2014 05:51 PM EDT.
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Reply #46 - April 11, 2014 06:15 PM EDT |
bullet656
Posts: 24 Join Date: February 2013 |
Also, you might already know this, but those red butterflies that drop poison on you always drop poison moss when they die. There are two of them near a bonfire that are really easy to farm. Sorry I never remember the names of places, but they are near the bonfire in that forest with the scyth guys that is prior to the branching path where you can either go fight the horse or fight the 3 skeleton kings.
Modified by bullet656 on April 11, 2014 06:17 PM EDT.
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Reply #47 - April 11, 2014 06:19 PM EDT |
Michael117
Posts: 46 Join Date: September 2011 |
bullet656 said in Reply #45 - April 11, 2014 05:48 PM EDT
Do you not have any space at all without poison in the boss room? As I said, I didn't enter the boss room until after I set fire to the windmill, so I don't know if it would have been worse if I didn't burn it, but I had a square in the middle of the pool where I could run around on without getting poisoned I just tried to make sure I never stepped off of it (even though I still did a few times), and when she went over it I would just run back and make her come to me. I did have the ring on that raised poison stats just in case though. I think I became poisoned once or twice but just tried to ride it out by blocking and using an estus flask when my health got really low. I just kept my shield up and kept circling until she finished an attack, then would take one or two swings at her. I'm at level 112 and have put most of my stats into strength and dexterity once I was able to carry whatever I wanted to: VGR-12, End-17, VIT-25,STR-40, DEX-32, ADP-16. I'm using the Drangleic Sword/Mail/Gauntlets/Leggings and the Tower Shield, plus wearing rings to increase my defense and attack. I haven't been reading much on the internet, so I have no idea how my level compares to others at this point, but I've spent a good amount of time grinding in the game.
In its standard state, the entire floor of the boss room is covered in poison unless you burn the windmill, once you do that then most of it drains and a square is suppose to open up for you to fight on. When things work as they're suppose to, there's only a small moat of poison around the edges of the room. I burned the windmill and the whole room is still covered in poison up to about the knee or less, so it slows my movement down and poisons me super fast. So it's a bug where burning the windmill doesn't actually work for me. By the way your character is almost exactly like mine in stats and equipment, that's pretty cool. I really love that Drangleic set of armor and sword. I love the Tower Shield as well and have been using that for most of the game. |
Reply #48 - April 11, 2014 06:56 PM EDT |
bullet656
Posts: 24 Join Date: February 2013 |
Damn, that really sucks. I can't imagine fighting in a room that it is impossible to avoid the poison. Poison is probably the thing that I hate the most in any video game. She's actually pretty easy otherwise. Not sure if you saw my second post above, but there is an easy way to farm for poison moss if you haven't done so already. |
Reply #49 - April 11, 2014 07:10 PM EDT |
Michael117
Posts: 46 Join Date: September 2011 |
LOL! HOLY SHIT guys, I beat that asshole boss in Earthen Peak just now! I was talking with bullet656 and I was totally ready to give up and restart the game or something, but I just booted it up a moment ago and ended up killing her. Even with that stupid windmill bug and the poison still all over the floor! Do you remember I said I had that single Elizabeth Mushroom in my inventory that continuously restores health for a time? That was the lifesaver for me, and the fact that I summoned the NPC Jester Thomas to aggro her. So, I took the mushroom and I found out that it heals you really fast, and it actually replenishes a lot of HP with each surge. Jester Thomas took most of the heat of the boss and I just attacked her from behind with the Drangleic Sword. The battle was over in no time and I only took a swig of Estus once, and used a Poison Moss once. Shit, that Elizabeth Mushroom is a game changer in certain situations guys, if you have any in your inventory make sure to keep that in mind I guess. I'm so glad I don't have to restart. LOL |
Reply #50 - April 11, 2014 08:41 PM EDT |
Nick DiMola
STAFF Posts: 111 Join Date: September 2009 |
Oh man, close call - glad you were able to work your way out of that one! I hadn't heard of that bug till you mentioned it, but it looks like others are experiencing it. Hopefully in the upcoming patch they actually get that fixed. You guys should definitely keep posting your progress, I'm getting a kick out of hearing how you're faring. I'm currently ripping the soundtrack and heading downstairs to play some of my DS1 quest. Need to get to that damn DLC already! |