PixlBit

You were fine,bro! This time the burden of wrongness is all on me. I'd offer you a free drink as a boon if we were in a bar. 

"But I stand by my statement that basically said that if any man thinks he has it so bad that he has to organize to fight for his rights, then he is completely brain-dead if he doesn't understand why some women do too."

~Bullet

I apologize,I misinterpreted what you said,bullet. That last sentence got jarbled in my mind and it was the one that brought your point beautifully together. Can you forgive me for being an asshole? 

That and accepting people as friends only because they agree with us all the time isn't really true friendship,Blake. It's better to have buddies that challenge us,call us on our shit,and despite it all still care about us even when we are on a different page.

I think I graduated right before geeks were wide-spread. At my school I was still an outcast and so were other people like me. (The few that were)

 I think it's nice I have more geeks to talk to now but beyond there being more of us it seems as if geeks harshly judge & discriminate against other kinds of geeks so I'm divided on if this big-bang of geek culture is as "great" as we make it out to be. lol.

 By the way, sorry for misinterpreting your response about alimony. My bad,yo! 

I really wish we could simply lock all the lunatics in the thunder-dome. lol.  Regardless,don't take my "arguing" as being generally pissed off at you. We've always been on good terms,Blake. 

- It's still something men do not have a choice in and there are certain fields of research that have proven an un-circumsized penis is not as "gross" as it is made out to be. I mean some people also believed milk leeched calcium out of bones whereas before milk was promoted as being high in calcium and good for bones.

 -I know the credo is "Rah-rah,go working woman!" but the truth is yes, men will get judged negatively in a romantic scenario if they have a low paying job,are disabled,or are jobless. (I have personal experience on this) Men still get measured by how much they earn and as a whole women still pursue men who "have more". I'm not saying there are not exceptions to the rule (Not all women are materialistic) but this is an ongoing thing all the same.

 -Yes they can but men still see more combat usually. And even when both men and women get to the point they are equally disposable I still do not consider that an improvement. If anything,it's one step backwards. Noone should be disposable but I guess the world is just a cruel place.

 -No, "successful geeks" are trendy. Big Bang Theory does not represent "normal geeks".

 -"It's shit". Usually I get a better counter-point from you but okay,whatever.

 -Men do it because since birth we are raised to idolize violence. Think about it, our toys are action figures,wrestling rings,and mini vehicle replicas of mass destruction. Also, I never said this is the fault of women. I do not know where you got that from. It's the fault of society in general. 

 -If you are a "top dog" in prison,yeah. If not you are a bitch. We joke about shanking and rape in prison but that's because it's a nasty truth we try to lessen in severity by making it funny. But in all fairness when women do get sent to prison I do not think they have it much better. However, we do tend to be more sympathetic to women in most cases.  (Most, not all. Some judges are real assholes and women-haters to boot.) 

 -That's one example and I feel bad for what happened to that woman. But whereas she was just as compassionate to men rape victims many other feminists laugh at and discount the mere possibility of a man getting raped. One person does not represent the viewpoint of many others. Humans are not a hive-mind.

 PS "CIS" means a person who was born male or female and who has male or female tendencies of a hetero nature. Ironically it is used more against men for some reason. In other words,we're "CIS males" because we're attracted to women. We don't know what it's like to be gay or trans. (A valid point but putting "scum" at the end of CIS is very inflammatory.)

You really do not think there are situations where a man's rights can get trampled on too? Wow man! I'm kind of speechless. 

Well Blake, the term "femi-nazi" is popular too and not entirely without reason. This is why I believe people need to simply be "humanists" as opposed to using words that are exclusive to one gender or the other gender. Fem-i-nism comes off as a VIP women's only club and MRA comes off as a VIP men's only club. I'm not saying there are not logical good people on both sides but their terminology needs to evolve. 

"Men" 

-Circumsized at birth

-Expected to toil and labor without complaint. (Whining is for pussies)

-Expected to be "bread winners" and "providers".

-Considered desposable in times of war.

-Expected to sacrifice themselves for women and children.

-Often insulted for being "Betas". 

-Often stuck paying alimony after a divorce.

-Often considered "guilty before innocent" when allegations of rape or other kinds of sexual harassment are involved.

-Are considered "CIS scum". (Yes,that's a term in social justice these days)

-Often violentely beat on each other or hurt themselves for the entertainment of the masses.

-Often get harsher sentences when sent to prison

-Are laughed at,disbelieved, or belittled if they confess to being raped themselves. 

I could write just as long of a list about women too and their own personal issues. But the fact is yes,men have many problems too and we are not always "privileged".

I'd encourage you to research more but alas,usually it's easier to find the loud mouthed idiots than the wise representatives on both sides of an ongoing debate who actually have good points. lol. That's true of both feminism and MRAs. However, I'd encourage you to watch a few more of Karen's videos just because they're not in the usual "All wommin are whores,fuck logic!" category.

And if I'm to be honest I think people asking each other to "check privilege" divides us and accentuates why we are different more than it reminds us why we're alike and how we should stick together. Sadly radical leftism contributes to racism and discrimination in its' own special way. I'd advise against believing everything colleges and books teach. It's easy to bury the truth and skew that same truth to serve an agenda.