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Etrian Odyssey IV: Party Planning Preview

A great party never just happens.

 

SCRUB PARTY

Landsknecht     Fortress

Runemaster     Sniper     Nightseeker

 

Creating a few characters of classes I was already comfortable with in order to level up my Sniper wasn’t too exciting, but I did get to add in a Landsknecht who sounded like a pretty drab damage dealer.  Going back and starting with these level one characters and almost no cash in the bank was a bit tough.  I did a lot of saving and conservative travelling to slowly build their experience with pretty rudimentary weapons until I had enough to get them properly equipped.  Yes, I could have transferred weapons from my other party over, but that seemed like even more work than the way I went about it.  Plus, roaming a dungeon in a tweed shirt and carrying a tiny dagger sounds like it would really build character. 

The Sniper proved to become pretty effective during this grind, dealing some serious damage from the back row - especially when he used certain skills.  I was mostly interested in getting him onboard because he has skills that bind enemies’ arms and legs.  Those binds worked as I had hoped and I slipped the Sniper over to my primary party as quickly as I could. 

 

PLEASE LET THE SNIPER WORK OUT PARTY

Nightseeker     Fortress     Dancer

Runemaster     Sniper

As it turns out, fighting anything slightly difficult became pretty tough without that heavy healing option in the back row.  I had acquired a healing wand that my Runemaster took over and it worked well for healing during battles, but it also wasted opportunities for dealing serious damage with spells.  I think ditching the Medic will be a mistake at this point unless I want to really slow my progress down and spend more money on items.  Enough of the other classes have some degree of healing available, but what I anticipate leaning on later in the game is sub-classing. 

Hopefully, I can do some strange Medic/Sniper combo character that will give me the best of both worlds once the ability to stack another class on a character becomes available.  Spending time with the scrub Landsknecht also showed me that he was a bit more interesting than I anticipated. He had some relatively low-cost skills that allowed for elemental attacks that stacked with blows from your other members.  I will definitely keep the Landsknecht in mind for a future sub-class. 

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Comments

Jesse Miller Staff Writer

02/24/2013 at 01:14 PM

Okay - someone sell me on this game.  It seems...complicated.

Travis Hawks Senior Editor

02/24/2013 at 03:56 PM

It is and it isn't. It uses some basic ideas that have interesting tweaks if you try to find them. Give the demo a try. I think it should give you a good feel for what these games are about.

asrealasitgets

02/24/2013 at 05:06 PM

It's a dungeon crawler viewed in first person mode with random enemy encounters. You can create a custom party with various skills to your liking. For example, mage, warrior, sniper, medic, rogue, etc. The game has unique names for these classes. The dungeons are mazes that you have to revisit until you defeat it's bosses, usually. The bottom DS screen allows you to draw a map of the dungeon so you won't get lost every time you return. There is also item gathering for unlocking better equipment and items in the shop. Most of the previous games were made up of one very deep dungeon with multiple floors. This new game allows you to explore a world map on an airship to search for dungeons instead of being stuck in one big dungeon. The game is challenging at the start because your party is new and low skilled. The game becomes more challenging as you progress which requires use of tactics and strategy, hence the need for sub-classes and unlocking more abilities. Some people like challenging games like those of old times. It's sort of the same reason people like hard games like Dark Souls. You have to learn the game to beat it. This game gives you a lot to tinker with. The visuals and sound are nice too. Also, if any of these games interest you, this is the game that is probably the easiest to get into. Not my words. The internets words.

Matt Snee Staff Writer

02/24/2013 at 01:18 PM

I usually keep one medic in games like this...  you always have to have a healer.  You do less damage, but your party will survive more often.  Sure, it feels like a waste cause they're so boring, but it's really a necessity. 

Your article really made me want to play, but I'm forsaking the demo to go straight to the game, which I ordered last night.  This is one of my favorite niche genres, and I've played Etrian Odyssey 2, so I kind of know what I'm getting into. 

Great article!

asrealasitgets

02/24/2013 at 01:57 PM

Thanks for your article. I'm glad to see niche games like this covered on your site. I have a similar type setup for my party in the demo. I'm not useing a Runemaster or Sniper, but I will try them out. This is my party:

FRONT: Landsknecht,  Dancer, Fortress
BACK: Night Seeker, Medic 

I think the game is as difficult as the previous entries. I don't think it's that welcoming to new players. I've played through the previous games and chipped away at them for years. Yes years! I think you have to have a certain level of patience to appreciate this sort of game, but I'm glad it exists. I'm also glad I'm not reviewing it. My review would be ready in 2014.

Travis Hawks Senior Editor

02/24/2013 at 03:53 PM

I really like the Runemaster so far. The first skills you have to get to open up the real offensive measures seem a little useless, but probably with good reason. A couple of skill points into the fireball or lightning rune and you are dealing a lot of damage. I'm surprised you aren't using one, but that's why I wanted to write this up. We all have our old habits and it's good to read other approaches and try to implement some of those ideas instead of always using the same tactics over and over.

asrealasitgets

02/24/2013 at 04:52 PM

I wanted to feel out the different classes since I usually have the same party layout every time. Tanks & Swords in the front, Medics & Mages or squishies in the back. I kind of like the dancer. It's an odd class, but useful I think. I actually like the airship too. Kind of tired of being in the same dungeon all of the time. 

Travis Hawks Senior Editor

02/24/2013 at 05:02 PM

Yeah, the airship seems like the right move.  I sort of liked the sailing side-game in EO III but got tired of it completely before getting too far.  I think this take on that mechanic (and making it integral) will be cool.  

BrokenH

02/24/2013 at 05:24 PM

I always wanted to play Etrian odyssey. Seems like a throwback to many of the tough first person dungeon crawlers I played as a wee lad!

Travis Hawks Senior Editor

02/25/2013 at 03:18 PM

That's exactly what it is, but with enough advancements for the modern gamer to make it palatable.

sakusakusakura

02/25/2013 at 02:40 PM

I'm not using a Runemaster or a Landskank and I beat the demo just fine.

asrealasitgets

02/25/2013 at 03:17 PM

who did you use in your party might I ask. I felt leveling up was quite easy and fast. What did you think.

Travis Hawks Senior Editor

02/25/2013 at 03:21 PM

I'm also curious. There's no wrong party, which is what I love about these games.

Leveling up was pretty quick until you got closer to level 10, which makes sense.

asrealasitgets

02/25/2013 at 04:39 PM

when you go to the guild to recruit characters, there are missing slots on the select screen. Are there more characters or just sub classes thay you unlock later? To lazy to research.

Travis Hawks Senior Editor

02/25/2013 at 05:09 PM

There are two other classes that will open up later, "Arcanist" and "???" (Atlus's nomenclature, not mine). I'm not entirely sure if there are even more because I like there to be some surprises later on...

asrealasitgets

02/25/2013 at 06:43 PM

maybe it's the prince/princess or farmer w/pig again. Is Bucanner the right name for piloting an airship?

Anonymous

02/26/2013 at 07:50 AM

I made a nightseeker, fortress, dancer, sniper, and a medic.  All girls.

sakusakusakura

02/26/2013 at 07:52 AM

I forgot to login, but that's my party.

Travis Hawks Senior Editor

02/26/2013 at 08:10 AM

Sounds like a good combo.  The sniper is pretty slick.  I want to get one integrated via sub-class as soon as possible. 

Travis Hawks Senior Editor

02/25/2013 at 09:33 PM

If you watch the class videos they've been releasing, it looks like "???" is called "Bushi".  Check it out.

asrealasitgets

02/25/2013 at 10:02 PM

2683 point hits! Surprised

Travis Hawks Senior Editor

02/25/2013 at 10:57 PM

Right?  I am guessing you can't use one of these guys until level 20 or 30.

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